Re: [Codel] [Make-wifi-fast] fq_codel_drop vs a udp flood

2016-05-01 Thread dpreed
Maybe I missed something, but why is it important to optimize for a UDP flood? A general observation of control theory is that there is almost always an adversarial strategy that will destroy any control regime. Sometimes one has to invoke an "oracle" that knows the state of the control system

Re: [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] [Bloat] blip: a tool for seeing internet latency with javascript

2013-04-28 Thread dpreed
Actually, using HTTP 1.1 GET that generates a single packet in each direction for a ping is quite reasonable. In fact, it is better for measuring actual path latencies, since ICMP pings *could* be discriminated against in a router along the way (in the old days people in the routing

Re: [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] revised Codel RFC is up

2013-03-02 Thread dpreed
This is an excellent RFC. It should be issued immediately. It should also be (along with fq_codel) cited as one alternative for managing queues properly in a new version of a best practices RFC. There may be alternatives of similar quality, but those alternatives should have quantitative

Re: [Codel] [Cerowrt-devel] FQ_Codel lwn draft article review

2012-11-24 Thread dpreed
All the points below make sense. Ideally you want to measure the TCP FQ Codel interaction in the real world. Throughput benchmarks are irrelevant, the equivalent of Hot Rod amateur dragstrip competitions among cars that cannot even turn corners. Beyond being hard, there is no agreed upon