Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-20 Thread Chris Crowther
On Fri, 19 Apr 2002, Chojin wrote: > Each OS has his own fingerprint. By example, when sending a SYN|ACK|FIN|RST > on a closed port, and user answers with RST, It's a Windows OS (because it > doesn't follow the RFC). That's OS finger printing, which will only tell you which OS they're u

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-20 Thread Mathew Meins
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:02 PM > > Subject: Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint > > > > > >> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Chojin wrote: > >> > >>> what about ban/kil

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-19 Thread Kev
> > You mean maybe like their processor serial/mac address/OS id? > > > > Each OS has his own fingerprint. By example, when sending a SYN|ACK|FIN|RST > on a closed port, and user answers with RST, It's a Windows OS (because it > doesn't follow the RFC). That only tells you what type of OS it is

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-19 Thread Chojin
- Original Message - From: "Valcor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint > On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Chojin wrote: > > > > What exactly do you mean by

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Carlo Wood
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 02:32:46PM +0100, Chris Crowther wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Chojin wrote: > > > I mean fingerprint is a sort a computer id and if I gline a users with > > *@*.aol.com with his fingeprint, even if user changes his IP (with isp > > reconnection) he is still glined because

RE: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Chris Crowther
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Alocin wrote: > I'm curious... Theoricaly.. would there be a way to retreive the mac > address? The MAC address of the sending host is only available on the same LAN (or VLAN) as the sending host. Plus dialup nodes don't have MAC addresses - not real ones anyway, th

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Kev
> I'm curious... Theoricaly.. would there be a way to retreive the mac > address? Only if you're on the same network as the other end of the connection. -- Kevin L. Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

RE: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Alocin
> OK, I see what you're talking about now, but how would you go > about generating a fingerprint? Baring in mind that we have no access to > their local system to use details such as CPU ID...and we likely never > will have either (I'm not sure I'd want that information from the users). > >

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Chris Crowther
On Thu, 18 Apr 2002, Carlo Wood wrote: > Basically that means that all users have to register somehow somewhere > and practically it means that a working e-mail adress is thrown into > the equation for authentication. Well we have that with the channel service, with the +r mode we could

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Chris Crowther
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Chojin wrote: > I mean fingerprint is a sort a computer id and if I gline a users with > *@*.aol.com with his fingeprint, even if user changes his IP (with isp > reconnection) he is still glined because his fingerprint is glined. Other > users from aol can join. OK,

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Carlo Wood
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 03:41:20PM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: > Perhaps he means something like my EAID. Err, AID... The EAID (Encoded Authentication ID) is only given out to grant priviledges to people. But the AID can be used for banning without actually _getting_ the AID (which would be bad bec

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Valcor
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Chojin wrote: > > What exactly do you mean by fingerprint? You can set klines and > > bans on masks such as *@*.aol.com already. > > > > I mean fingerprint is a sort a computer id and if I gline a users with > *@*.aol.com with his fingeprint, even if user changes his IP (wit

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Richard Smith
on 18/4/02 06:15, Chojin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Crowther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chojin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:02 PM > Subjec

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-18 Thread Chojin
- Original Message - From: "Chris Crowther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chojin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint > On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Choj

Re: [Coder-Com] Ban/Kill with fingerprint

2002-04-17 Thread Chris Crowther
On Wed, 17 Apr 2002, Chojin wrote: > what about ban/kill using fingerprint associated with a provider ? (I want > to ban someone with *.aol.com associated with his fingerprint). What exactly do you mean by fingerprint? You can set klines and bans on masks such as *@*.aol.com already. -