[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-11107) Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml options

2016-11-30 Thread Sylvain Lebresne (JIRA)

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Sylvain Lebresne commented on CASSANDRA-11107:
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bq. Let me know what you think, [~slebresne].

Hum, I guess it's probably late enough in 3.0/3.X cycle to not bother with 
anything too complex. I guess the main problem is 4.0 where using {{rpc_*}} 
will look really weird and arbitrary. But I'm fine making this a 4.0 patch only 
by introducing the new names there as basically a renaming of the old ones 
where:
* for the yaml, since it's a major upgrade, maybe it's fine to just start 
refusing the old names and adding the new ones direclty.
* for the {{peers}}/{{local}} tables, we can add {{native_transport_address}} 
but keep {{rpc_address}} (which will have the exact same value) temporarily as 
deprecated so drivers have time to update.
* for gossip, I believe we can just rename the {{ApplicationState}} enum but 
call it a day otherwise.


> Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml 
> options
> 
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-11107
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11107
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Configuration
>Reporter: n0rad
>Assignee: Joel Knighton
>Priority: Minor
>
> I'm starting cassandra on a container with this /etc/hosts
> {quote}
> 127.0.0.1rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> ::1  rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> {quote}
> I have the default configuration except :
> {quote}
>  - seeds: "10.1.1.1"
> listen_address : 10.1.1.1
> {quote}
> cassandra will start listening on *127.0.0.1:9042*
> if I set *rpc_address:10.1.1.1* , even if *start_rpc: false*, cassandra will 
> listen on 10.1.1.1
> Since rpc is not started, I assumed that *rpc_address* and 
> *broadcast_rpc_address* will be ignored
> It took me a while to figure that. There may be something to do around this



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[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-11107) Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml options

2016-11-29 Thread Ariel Weisberg (JIRA)

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Ariel Weisberg commented on CASSANDRA-11107:


I already have code in that direction as part of 7544. I am adding 
default_native_port which is used when dealing with nodes that don't publish 
their native port. New version nodes gossip their native port along with the 
address and that is used. native_port now specifies just the native port of the 
instance using that yaml file and it doesn't need to match across the cluster. 
Once a rolling upgrade is complete the configurations can safely diverge across 
the cluster.

It works similarly for listen_address.

It's not going to happen quickly, and honestly it seems at risk for a Feb/March 
release. I have to do a large amount of additional work to get the storage port 
issue sorted out so it.

The incremental additional work for me to do the gossip and peers work is 
negligible. Native protocol and fixing the client driver side is a bigger 
issue. I have to update the java client anyways because it's not exposing the 
cluster metadata in a way that allows tools like sstableloader to work with 
multiple instances per node.

> Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml 
> options
> 
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-11107
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11107
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Configuration
>Reporter: n0rad
>Assignee: Joel Knighton
>Priority: Minor
>
> I'm starting cassandra on a container with this /etc/hosts
> {quote}
> 127.0.0.1rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> ::1  rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> {quote}
> I have the default configuration except :
> {quote}
>  - seeds: "10.1.1.1"
> listen_address : 10.1.1.1
> {quote}
> cassandra will start listening on *127.0.0.1:9042*
> if I set *rpc_address:10.1.1.1* , even if *start_rpc: false*, cassandra will 
> listen on 10.1.1.1
> Since rpc is not started, I assumed that *rpc_address* and 
> *broadcast_rpc_address* will be ignored
> It took me a while to figure that. There may be something to do around this



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[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-11107) Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml options

2016-11-29 Thread Joel Knighton (JIRA)

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Joel Knighton commented on CASSANDRA-11107:
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That's correct - it's true that I could at least piggyback on those since those 
migrations/changes would already be necessary.

> Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml 
> options
> 
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-11107
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11107
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Configuration
>Reporter: n0rad
>Assignee: Joel Knighton
>Priority: Minor
>
> I'm starting cassandra on a container with this /etc/hosts
> {quote}
> 127.0.0.1rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> ::1  rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> {quote}
> I have the default configuration except :
> {quote}
>  - seeds: "10.1.1.1"
> listen_address : 10.1.1.1
> {quote}
> cassandra will start listening on *127.0.0.1:9042*
> if I set *rpc_address:10.1.1.1* , even if *start_rpc: false*, cassandra will 
> listen on 10.1.1.1
> Since rpc is not started, I assumed that *rpc_address* and 
> *broadcast_rpc_address* will be ignored
> It took me a while to figure that. There may be something to do around this



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[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-11107) Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml options

2016-11-29 Thread Jason Brown (JIRA)

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Jason Brown commented on CASSANDRA-11107:
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[~jkni] I think [~aweisberg] is planning on addressing the {{peers}} table 
changes and new {{ApplicationState}} in gossip with some of his work in 
CASSANDRA-7544. Ariel?

> Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml 
> options
> 
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-11107
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11107
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Configuration
>Reporter: n0rad
>Assignee: Joel Knighton
>Priority: Minor
>
> I'm starting cassandra on a container with this /etc/hosts
> {quote}
> 127.0.0.1rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> ::1  rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> {quote}
> I have the default configuration except :
> {quote}
>  - seeds: "10.1.1.1"
> listen_address : 10.1.1.1
> {quote}
> cassandra will start listening on *127.0.0.1:9042*
> if I set *rpc_address:10.1.1.1* , even if *start_rpc: false*, cassandra will 
> listen on 10.1.1.1
> Since rpc is not started, I assumed that *rpc_address* and 
> *broadcast_rpc_address* will be ignored
> It took me a while to figure that. There may be something to do around this



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[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-11107) Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml options

2016-11-29 Thread Joel Knighton (JIRA)

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Joel Knighton commented on CASSANDRA-11107:
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I've got a patch in progress that solves the easy parts of this. At this point, 
however, I am having second thoughts regarding the costs/benefits of this 
change.

At this point, to support separate rpc/native_transport configurations, changes 
would seem to include:
* updating the native protocol so that NEW_NODE events include rpc_address and 
native_transport_address (and other TopologyChangeEvents, since identifiers 
used by drivers might include both address configurations)
* updating the PEERS table to include rpc_address and native_transport_address
* adding an ApplicationState in Gossip for native_transport_address.

Drivers would also need to be updated to query native_transport_address 
appropriately. This seems like a fair amount of work when 4.0 will end up 
negating these changes on removing Thrift.

The other option that immediately presents itself is to allow these properties 
to be set in a 3.X yaml but require them to match the rpc configurations. I'm 
not sure this is worth it either.

Let me know what you think, [~slebresne].

> Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml 
> options
> 
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-11107
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11107
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Configuration
>Reporter: n0rad
>Assignee: Joel Knighton
>Priority: Minor
>
> I'm starting cassandra on a container with this /etc/hosts
> {quote}
> 127.0.0.1rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> ::1  rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> {quote}
> I have the default configuration except :
> {quote}
>  - seeds: "10.1.1.1"
> listen_address : 10.1.1.1
> {quote}
> cassandra will start listening on *127.0.0.1:9042*
> if I set *rpc_address:10.1.1.1* , even if *start_rpc: false*, cassandra will 
> listen on 10.1.1.1
> Since rpc is not started, I assumed that *rpc_address* and 
> *broadcast_rpc_address* will be ignored
> It took me a while to figure that. There may be something to do around this



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[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-11107) Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml options

2016-11-23 Thread Sylvain Lebresne (JIRA)

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Sylvain Lebresne commented on CASSANDRA-11107:
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Awesome, thanks (and sorry for being pushy).

> Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml 
> options
> 
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-11107
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11107
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Configuration
>Reporter: n0rad
>Assignee: Joel Knighton
>Priority: Minor
>
> I'm starting cassandra on a container with this /etc/hosts
> {quote}
> 127.0.0.1rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> ::1  rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> {quote}
> I have the default configuration except :
> {quote}
>  - seeds: "10.1.1.1"
> listen_address : 10.1.1.1
> {quote}
> cassandra will start listening on *127.0.0.1:9042*
> if I set *rpc_address:10.1.1.1* , even if *start_rpc: false*, cassandra will 
> listen on 10.1.1.1
> Since rpc is not started, I assumed that *rpc_address* and 
> *broadcast_rpc_address* will be ignored
> It took me a while to figure that. There may be something to do around this



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[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-11107) Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml options

2016-11-23 Thread Joel Knighton (JIRA)

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Joel Knighton commented on CASSANDRA-11107:
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That shouldn't be a problem - I expect I'll have time to submit a patch here in 
the next week or so.

> Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml 
> options
> 
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-11107
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11107
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Configuration
>Reporter: n0rad
>Assignee: Joel Knighton
>Priority: Minor
>
> I'm starting cassandra on a container with this /etc/hosts
> {quote}
> 127.0.0.1rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> ::1  rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> {quote}
> I have the default configuration except :
> {quote}
>  - seeds: "10.1.1.1"
> listen_address : 10.1.1.1
> {quote}
> cassandra will start listening on *127.0.0.1:9042*
> if I set *rpc_address:10.1.1.1* , even if *start_rpc: false*, cassandra will 
> listen on 10.1.1.1
> Since rpc is not started, I assumed that *rpc_address* and 
> *broadcast_rpc_address* will be ignored
> It took me a while to figure that. There may be something to do around this



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[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-11107) Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml options

2016-11-23 Thread Sylvain Lebresne (JIRA)

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Sylvain Lebresne commented on CASSANDRA-11107:
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Note: for things to not look too awkward in 4.0 (once thrift is removed), we 
also probably want to add in a similar fashion than what's above:
 * `native_transport_keepalive`: for some reason the native protocol server 
reuse `rpc_keepalive`
* `native_transport_interface`: similar to `rpc_interface`
* `native_transport_interface_prefer_ipv6`: similar to 
`rpc_interface_prefer_ipv6`

I'll also note that working on CASSANDRA-5 and thinks look really weird 
without those changes, so it would be nice if we could get this in relatively 
quickly ([~jkni]: meaning, let me know if you don't think you'll have any cycle 
for this in the next month or so).

> Add native_transport_address and native_transport_broadcast_address yaml 
> options
> 
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-11107
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-11107
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Improvement
>  Components: Configuration
>Reporter: n0rad
>Assignee: Joel Knighton
>Priority: Minor
>
> I'm starting cassandra on a container with this /etc/hosts
> {quote}
> 127.0.0.1rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> ::1  rkt-235c219a-f0dc-4958-9e03-5afe2581bbe1 localhost
> {quote}
> I have the default configuration except :
> {quote}
>  - seeds: "10.1.1.1"
> listen_address : 10.1.1.1
> {quote}
> cassandra will start listening on *127.0.0.1:9042*
> if I set *rpc_address:10.1.1.1* , even if *start_rpc: false*, cassandra will 
> listen on 10.1.1.1
> Since rpc is not started, I assumed that *rpc_address* and 
> *broadcast_rpc_address* will be ignored
> It took me a while to figure that. There may be something to do around this



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