[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-11 Thread Neil C Smith (JIRA)


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Neil C Smith commented on NETBEANS-2807:


The IDE has the same error message. Changing the look and feel to work around 
an Ubuntu packaging issue doesn't seem a good way forward to me.

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-11 Thread Alessandro Falappa (JIRA)


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Alessandro Falappa commented on NETBEANS-2807:
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Ultimately, I think the GTK related message may be due to the fact that the 
installer runs with the system look and feel which is
{{GtkLookAndFeel}} under Ubuntu.

We could fix this by having the installer use a cross platform look and feel 
such as Nimbus or the ugly Metal.


> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-10 Thread Ulf Zibis (JIRA)


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Ulf Zibis commented on NETBEANS-2807:
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I don't worry about this, because the NB installer does not more than unpacking 
a big zip into one sole folder and add a menu entry. I assume there is more 
such risk with applications which are deeply enlaced with system libraries and 
settings.
And if, I would have more fear that it could damage things in my /home folder 
where my personal data is, which can't be recovered from elsewhere. 
Additionally installed as root the application is protected from infiltration 
by potential malware. This I guess is the main reason, why it is recommended to 
install applications as admin.
For the plugins see my preference in 
https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=211531
Moreover, then you still can install plugins under user rights and if you want 
to test a beta version it overrides the release version in the root 
installation.

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-10 Thread Alessandro Falappa (JIRA)


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Alessandro Falappa commented on NETBEANS-2807:
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As I said is a matter of preferences, moreover I always work in scenarios where 
I am the only user of a personal PC, system wide installation could be indeed 
useful for use cases like programming teaching classrooms where the IDE is 
installed globally for every user.

The risk I am concerned about, besides the installer having the power to 
write/overwrite anything while installing, is not knowing how exactly NetBeans 
behaves once running as normal user: what about installing plugins for example?

Anyway I didn't intended to be rude.

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-08 Thread Neil C Smith (JIRA)


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Neil C Smith commented on NETBEANS-2807:


Fair cop! :) I've moved both of those issues to 11.2. And probably is still 
worth a more open discussion on dev@ on what we require of installers, and 
whether other (none-Java) options (eg. we have Snap already) are our future 
direction.

Closing this as I believe there's no issue we can do anything about here.

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-08 Thread Ulf Zibis (JIRA)


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Ulf Zibis commented on NETBEANS-2807:
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Agreed, but please have in mind, that Alessandro started it and you joined it 
too. ;-)
On the other hand, it's part of a bug to justify it's fix, but that would more 
suite too e.g. bug NETBEANS-2803 and bug NETBEANS-2806.

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-08 Thread Neil C Smith (JIRA)


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Neil C Smith commented on NETBEANS-2807:


If you take that question to dev@ we could discuss pros and cons in the right 
place for it. ;)

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-08 Thread Ulf Zibis (JIRA)


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Ulf Zibis commented on NETBEANS-2807:
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If the NetBeans installer since years would have asked for root password, I 
believe, you all too were "used" to install it in the system tree. IIRC, 
NetBeans Windows installer asks for admin rights per default, so why not under 
Linux, where most other installers do the as same ask for root rights.
What is the real risk _in arguments_ to install NB in the system tree like 
almost all other distribution external applications, besides a usage feeling?

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-08 Thread Neil C Smith (JIRA)


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Neil C Smith commented on NETBEANS-2807:


Let's keep it on-topic.  People have different usage patterns (and personally I 
agree with Alessandro and have worked like that with NetBeans for years) but we 
should either support both or document we don't.

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-08 Thread Ulf Zibis (JIRA)


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Ulf Zibis commented on NETBEANS-2807:
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Do you consequently also prefer to install other applications, e.g. Firefox, 
LibreOffice, etc. in /home?
When I do a backup of my own particular data aka. /home, I do not want it to be 
floated with hundreds of MByte of stuff, I can easily recover from the public.

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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[jira] [Commented] (NETBEANS-2807) Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

2019-07-08 Thread Alessandro Falappa (JIRA)


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Alessandro Falappa commented on NETBEANS-2807:
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I have encountered that message too, but it doesn't affect installation and 
subsequent runs of NetBeans at all.

I think it can be safely ignored.

On a side note, I think system wide installation (installer running as root or 
via sudo like in this report) is a bit risky, I prefer installing locally with 
an unprivileged user and inside that user home dir.

> Installer: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> --
>
> Key: NETBEANS-2807
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2807
> Project: NetBeans
>  Issue Type: Bug
>Affects Versions: 11.1
> Environment: Ubuntu 18.04 64 bit
>Reporter: Ulf Zibis
>Priority: Minor
>
> $ sudo -H bash Apache-NetBeans-11.1-bin-linux-x64.sh 
> Configuring the installer...
> Searching for JVM on the system...
> Extracting installation data...
> Running the installer wizard...
> Gtk-Message: 00:21:49.287: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"



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