Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-02 Thread Ortwin Glück
Michael Becke wrote: In particular I would like to hear from all the regular committers, contributors, and users. How do you think this move would effect HttpClient's visibility, community, and organization? I see HttpClient as a Jakarta level project. As Oleg has already stated, its design

Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-02 Thread Michael Becke
Eric, These are good questions, and I think they summarize well the current discussion. Should HttpClient be promoted to a Jakarta project? - Yes, that would seem to make sense, given the separate mailing list, the list of other commons libraries it depends upon, the separate mailing list,

RE: Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-02 Thread Kalnichevski, Oleg
: Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons? As for supporting multiple platforms, isn't Ant a TLP and is only written in Java? HttpClient is already cross-platform because it's written in Java -- I don't think there's a requirement that it be re-implemented in a different language for each

Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-02 Thread Ortwin Glück
Kalnichevski, Oleg wrote: This also affects package naming (org.apache.commons.httpclient vs org.apache.httpclient) which in its turn affects binary compatibility with the previous releases. Wow cool. Release now under Commons and rename packages later. This gives us the unique opportunity to

Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-01 Thread otisg
I am a HttpClient user and a Lucene committer. I don't see any problems in HttpClient moving out of Commons. However, before you waste time doing that, talk to people involved in moving projects from Jakarta and making them Top Level Projects (TLP). Ant, Log4j, etc. have made this move, so you

Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-01 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
Otis, et al There are several things that in my view make HttpClient not yet ready for a full-blown TLP status: * Please correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought that TLPs were supposed to support multiple platforms, hence their top level status. Whereas I can certainly imagine HttpClient

Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-01 Thread Sam Berlin
* I can hardly think of any subproject within HttpClient project. Ability to host sub-project within a project is one of the primary criteria for promoting a project to the top level. I do not think we qualify Just as one possible subproject, I have been mulling over in my head building a

Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-01 Thread Brad O'Hearne
Hey all, I'm new to the HttpClient mailing list, but here's a couple of newbie observations: * Please correct me if I am wrong, but I always thought that TLPs were supposed to support multiple platforms, hence their top level status. Whereas I can certainly imagine HttpClient implemented in

Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-01 Thread Ryan Hoegg
Another downside of top-level-hood is the overhead. Jakarta already has a fully functional PMC and a Charter, as well as an established brand. -- Ryan Hoegg ISIS Networks http://www.isisnetworks.net/ otisg wrote: I am a HttpClient user and a Lucene committer. I don't see any problems in

Re: Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-02-01 Thread Roland Weber
Hello folks, after taking a look on the project list at http://jakarta.apache.org/, I'd feel comfortable to see the HTTP Client among them. It sure wouldn't hurt it's visibility either. I see two major points why it should not be promoted to top level status. The technical reason is the pendig

Promote HttpClient out of commons?

2004-01-31 Thread Michael Becke
Hello All, There has been some discussion lately of promoting HttpClient out of commons, making it a regular Jakarta project. Before any such move is made we would need to come to a consensus, and vote, within the HttpClient community. At this point I would like to encourage everyone to put