Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-09 Thread Rama Neko
We do not game copyright laws in this way. You can see an example with Heinrich Hoffman's photographs: the USA consider them to be in the Public Domain in apparent disregard for international law on copyright; these photographs are protected by copyright in Germany, where they are the object of

Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-09 Thread Michael Peel
That's a valid point, but I'm coming at it from different direction: works that are public domain in the country of origin but not in the US. I don't view that as gaming the copyright system, as I'm based in the UK and I don't view Wikimedia as an American website/set of projects. If a UK

Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-09 Thread Michael Peel
The WMF is accepting my files? I thought that they were simply providing a service, and it was the community at large that was accepting the files. ;-) That said, the formal side of Wikimedia is not just the WMF. We have a growing network of chapters around the world, who are legally based

Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-09 Thread Rama Neko
My apologies if gaming the system has overly negative connotations, I am worried of having been unwittingly insulting. Are there concrete examples of works that are in the Public Domain in their county of origin but not in the USA? I was under the impression that under the Bern Convention, a work

Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-09 Thread Eusebius
AFAIK, the WMF exposes itself in US law by hosting and publishing files from a Florida site (I'm not sure what responsibility the chapters may have, but I don't think Commons is related to any of them). They simply have the right to protect themselves by requiring that all hosted files be ok

Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 February 2010 10:36, Rama Neko raman...@gmail.com wrote: Are there concrete examples of works that are in the Public Domain in their county of origin but not in the USA? I was under the impression that under the Bern Convention, a work was not protected longer than it is in its country

Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Images that are PD in their country of origin

2010-02-09 Thread Gnangarra
If the images were to be uploaded to a Commons server then it would require a number of additional questions at the time of uploading we already have enough problems in getting people to follow the current requirements and selecting the appropriate license. I've spent time in getting an