[Fwd: Google Summer of Code Summit]

2006-10-12 Thread Kevin Menard
Sorry if this went through before, since there were issues with my list subscription. If not, please feel free to share your thoughts, as the Google SoC summit is in two days. I'll be flying most of tomorrow, but should be able to gather everything together tomorrow night. Best regards,

Re: [Fwd: Google Summer of Code Summit]

2006-10-12 Thread Andrus Adamchik
Hi Kevin, Sorry if this went through before, since there were issues with my list subscription. AFAIK it didn't - this is the first copy that I received. Here is my feedback as a mentor. I'll be talking about the three projects that we handled in Cayenne this year, as I have no idea how

Re: [Fwd: Google Summer of Code Summit]

2006-10-12 Thread Kevin Menard
For this and other emails in the thread, I'm going to switch hats from my role of solicitor to one of fellow mentor. This is mostly to stimulate more conversation. I will do my best to represent all viewpoints fairly in the end, however. Andrus Adamchik wrote: Sorry if this went through

Re: [Fwd: Google Summer of Code Summit]

2006-10-12 Thread Andrus Adamchik
On Oct 12, 2006, at 1:35 PM, Kevin Menard wrote: o Should students be given more development resources than non- committers? -1 This goes a bit in hand with the previous discourse on patches. This could quickly degrade into a procedural firefight, but it does sorta irk me that we

Re: [Fwd: Google Summer of Code Summit]

2006-10-12 Thread Kevin Menard
Andrus Adamchik wrote: No firefight - there is simply no other way to build karma on an open source project. And the fact that one of our projects was done with no community involvement simply sucks. My point was that if some sort of distributed SCM was used rather than SVN, then it wouldn't

Re: [Fwd: Google Summer of Code Summit]

2006-10-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
o Is SoC a worthwhile program? Yes, no question about this. In Cocoon and FOP, SoC brought us at least two very good committers in 2005 and 2006, who might not have joined the projects otherwise. o Should the ASF continue to participate in the SoC program? Sure! o How can the ASF improve