Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Joshua Slive
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > mailing lists. I don't get the sense that he does this in order that the > world will recognize him and adulate him as a hero. (Joshua, please > correct me if I'm wrong ;-) Personally, I'm just in it for the money. Joshua. ---

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> And why to not tell it direct. Many of the commiter are considered Apache > gurus. That is true. or s/committer/community/g Dw. PS: Right we are all individuals^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HGuru's. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> IMHO Pier simply got the idea wrong. :-) So if you intend to do this, > I'd be happy to play "the Turbine guy" (as long as I get some beer. ;-) Ok - but more people may get this impression of guru-dom. So perhaps we need to change the name a little. Or hand out so many guru buttons that it

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 23:25, Rich Bowen wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > > > Pushing the idea of a "guru" (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the > > idea of a community. It's a single individual over the bazillion of people > > behind this or that project, and I wouldn

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Rodent of Unusual Size dijo: > Pier Fumagalli wrote: >> >> In my opinion the key idea of the ASF is to push the idea of the >> different communities behind a project. I can't count how many times I >> heard on our lists that a project can be considered "mature" only when >> the original author left

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Pier Fumagalli wrote: > > In my opinion the key idea of the ASF is to push the idea of the different > communities behind a project. I can't count how many times I heard on our > lists that a project can be considered "mature" only when the original > author left and someone else in the community

RE: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> In my opinion the key idea of the ASF is to push the idea of the different > communities behind a project. > Pushing the idea of a "guru" (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the > idea of a community. How does making it plural work for you? IOW, "The Gurus Are In." That is somewhere be

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Rich Bowen
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Pushing the idea of a "guru" (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the > idea of a community. It's a single individual over the bazillion of people > behind this or that project, and I wouldn't want it to be seen as a > "serious" figure promoted by

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Mads Toftum
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 09:57:07PM +0100, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Pushing the idea of a "guru" (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the > idea of a community. It's a single individual over the bazillion of people > behind this or that project, and I wouldn't want it to be seen as a > "serious

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 24/9/03 18:23, "Dirk-Willem van Gulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Sander Temme wrote: > >>> i like the idea of having them during sessions. diversity is good, >>> and since it's so free-format, and the same gurus can come back >>> (bwb -- bribed with beer) for encore

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Sander Temme wrote: > > i like the idea of having them during sessions. diversity is good, > > and since it's so free-format, and the same gurus can come back > > (bwb -- bribed with beer) for encores, i think it's a win. > > You mean... there will be a keg behind the table?

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Sander Temme
> i like the idea of having them during sessions. diversity is good, > and since it's so free-format, and the same gurus can come back > (bwb -- bribed with beer) for encores, i think it's a win. You mean... there will be a keg behind the table? I'm in! S. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] htt

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Mads Toftum
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:57:08PM -0400, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > i like the idea of having them during sessions. diversity is good, > and since it's so free-format, and the same gurus can come back > (bwb -- bribed with beer) for encores, i think it's a win. Yeah, I think during the day

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Rich Bowen wrote: OK, I added on in cvs, and then read your note. So it's your preference that these not be going on during sessions? That leaves very little time - just the lunch and coffee breaks. My thought hat been to have these be going on while sessions were g

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Rich Bowen wrote: > > OK, I added on in cvs, and then read your note. So it's your preference > that these not be going on during sessions? That leaves very little time > - just the lunch and coffee breaks. My thought hat been to have these be > going on while sessions were going on for the few fo

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Rich Bowen
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > There will be a signup sheet at the conference, but I'd like to get an > > idea now whether we're going to have enough participants to make this > > Please open one in CVS - ideally with days + timeslots which match the > space between session

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Brian McCallister
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 02:59 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Can we have a GuRu hat, t-shirt of beard; marked with an H, X or J depending on our java, http or xml skills :-) +1, That would be a hilarious gimmick.

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > We tried to do this last year, but nobody really took charge of it, so > it didn't happen. But this year, we're going to make it happen. > > I'd like to have a "The Guru Is In" table in the lounge/lab area, and > have it manned throughout the conference. I