RE: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-14 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: All legal matters are for the Board and the Foundation's attorneys to address. Regarding audits ... There is a presumption of innocence in our legal system. I do not believe that due diligence requires an a priori presumption of fraud, and a investigation to prove its

Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:27:35 -0500 Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Except that it is not. I just think I'll bring it up in 6 months when there are more dead bodies floating around. Noel does a great PR job though. Oh, Dead Bodies? ... scared. I do not think there are dead bodies. However, i think

Re: Disregard Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:22:17 +0100 Santiago Gala Pérez wrote: William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: (...) | Many of us rant in email, delete, then recompose with some decorum. | Since many things that are discussed in community involve strongly held | personal opinions and beliefs, this safety measure

Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-14 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: From: Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... First of all, thanks for this thorough resonse. Sure. True. This does belong on community@ I think it belongs in the Incubator, as the Incubator is exactly for these discussions (where constructive). Interested parties can subscribe

Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-14 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:33:00 +0100 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: From: Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] First of all, thanks for this thorough resonse. Sure. True. This does belong on community@ I think it belongs in the Incubator, as the Incubator is exactly for these

Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-13 Thread Rich Bowen
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: So, like I said, I clearly missed what you suggested as fixes to the problems that you perceive. While I'm sure that this discussion belongs on the incubator list, rather than here, I have a strong suspicion that you're going to respond with a

Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. Bergman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: community@apache.org Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 23:21:50 -0500 To: community@apache.org Subject: RE: Undermining the Incubator Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I suggested that Blojsom might be a good choice for hosting ASF project news and might also make a great ASF

Disregard Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
2004 01:34:55 -0500 To: community@apache.org community@apache.org Subject: Re: Undermining the Incubator In summary: Oh of course no problems exist, its all fixed and happy. Just don't mind the dead bodies floating in the pond. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp

Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
. From: Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: community@apache.org Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:58:35 +0100 To: community@apache.org Subject: Re: Undermining the Incubator On Jan 13, 2004, at 7:48 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: In summary: Oh of course no problems exist, its all fixed

Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-13 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
From: Rich Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: community@apache.org Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:24:49 -0500 (EST) To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Cc: community@apache.org community@apache.org Subject: Re: Undermining the Incubator On Mon, 12 Jan 2004, Andrew C

Re: Disregard Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-13 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
At 12:36 AM 1/13/2004, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: The Send button is near the close button. I missed. Suggestion from an httpd/apr hothead to our community forum participants [NOT specifically ACO]... Delay sending messages: [30] (minutes) is a really great option to enable, well worth the effort

Re: Disregard Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-13 Thread Santiago Gala Pérez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: (...) | Many of us rant in email, delete, then recompose with some decorum. | Since many things that are discussed in community involve strongly held | personal opinions and beliefs, this safety measure ensures that

Re: Undermining the Incubator

2004-01-12 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
So, like I said, I clearly missed what you suggested as fixes to the problems that you perceive. While I'm sure that this discussion belongs on the incubator list, rather than here, I have a strong suspicion that you're going to respond with a note to the effect that you've already been