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From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 December 2004 23:11
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
the only ones who really got hurt were the Avalon users, and the ASF
establishment have already declared that they are not
Stephen McConnell wrote:
When you say and the two container factions that chose not to
participate with everyone else you are implying and active
choice? Do you believe that the Avalon community was
presented with a choice?
Yes to both. And multiple of each over extended periods of time.
-Original Message-
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 17 December 2004 03:09
To: community@apache.org
Subject: RE: [ANN] Avalon Closed
Stephen McConnell wrote:
When you say and the two container factions that chose not to
participate with everyone else
Stephen McConnell wrote:
* What do you think is the role of a PMC in our decision
making process?
The PMC makes all binding decisions regarding a project. If the PMC fails
in that regard to the satisfaction of the Foundation's stakeholders, the
Board can, and will be expected to, take
At 08:30 PM 12/16/2004, Stephen McConnell wrote:
Concerning our decision making processes, I have a couple of
questions...
* What do you think is the role of a PMC in our decision
making process?
They have absolute decision making process within the board's
mandate for their project.
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
* Within our decision processes, what do you think is more
important - the community or the individual?
The community. Individuals participate, but the distinction
between an ASF project and a, say, sourceforge project, is that
the ASF project is more than one
J Aaron Farr wrote:
...
The thing is, and the reason for sharing this with the community, is
that PMC's and communities need to watch out for this sort of thing in
your own community. Don't wait for the situation to get critical. PMCs
and PMC Chairs can intervene and should rather than watch
Now the partys over
Im so tired
[ ... as probably everyone else here ...]
Then I see you coming
Out of nowhere
[ ... Is this you, Stephen? ... ]
Much communication in a motion
Without conversation or a notion
[... Yep ...]
Avalon
When the samba takes you
Out of nowhere
And the backgrounds
On Dec 17, 2004, at 10:35 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
Comments in [] by me, with apologies to Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music.
You just ruined this for me - I really liked that song, and I really
hate this whole Avalon thing.
Now, can we please lay this thread to rest? What good is it for?
Anyone with a PGP key on the pgp.com keyserver likely has gotten one or
more of these emails recently. I'm figuring it's legit, see
http://www.pgp.com/downloads/beta/globaldirectory/faq.html
- Any security types have a decent analysis of what the new pgp.com's
Directory really means, vs. using
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From: Henning Schmiedehausen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
Now, can we please lay this thread to rest? What good is it for? Just to
prove I was right?
+1
Sorry for the noise.
I do hope, though, that the larger ASF community does learn some lessons
from what
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