Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Joshua Slive
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > mailing lists. I don't get the sense that he does this in order that the > world will recognize him and adulate him as a hero. (Joshua, please > correct me if I'm wrong ;-) Personally, I'm just in it for the money. Joshua. ---

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> And why to not tell it direct. Many of the commiter are considered Apache > gurus. That is true. or s/committer/community/g Dw. PS: Right we are all individuals^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HGuru's. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> IMHO Pier simply got the idea wrong. :-) So if you intend to do this, > I'd be happy to play "the Turbine guy" (as long as I get some beer. ;-) Ok - but more people may get this impression of guru-dom. So perhaps we need to change the name a little. Or hand out so many guru buttons that it

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-29 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 23:25, Rich Bowen wrote: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > > > Pushing the idea of a "guru" (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the > > idea of a community. It's a single individual over the bazillion of people > > behind this or that project, and I wouldn

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Rodent of Unusual Size dijo: > Pier Fumagalli wrote: >> >> In my opinion the key idea of the ASF is to push the idea of the >> different communities behind a project. I can't count how many times I >> heard on our lists that a project can be considered "mature" only when >> the original author left

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Pier Fumagalli wrote: > > In my opinion the key idea of the ASF is to push the idea of the different > communities behind a project. I can't count how many times I heard on our > lists that a project can be considered "mature" only when the original > author left and someone else in the community

RE: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> In my opinion the key idea of the ASF is to push the idea of the different > communities behind a project. > Pushing the idea of a "guru" (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the > idea of a community. How does making it plural work for you? IOW, "The Gurus Are In." That is somewhere be

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Rich Bowen
On Sun, 28 Sep 2003, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Pushing the idea of a "guru" (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the > idea of a community. It's a single individual over the bazillion of people > behind this or that project, and I wouldn't want it to be seen as a > "serious" figure promoted by

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Mads Toftum
On Sun, Sep 28, 2003 at 09:57:07PM +0100, Pier Fumagalli wrote: > Pushing the idea of a "guru" (IMVHO) is exactly the opposite of pushing the > idea of a community. It's a single individual over the bazillion of people > behind this or that project, and I wouldn't want it to be seen as a > "serious

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-28 Thread Pier Fumagalli
On 24/9/03 18:23, "Dirk-Willem van Gulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Sander Temme wrote: > >>> i like the idea of having them during sessions. diversity is good, >>> and since it's so free-format, and the same gurus can come back >>> (bwb -- bribed with beer) for encore

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Sander Temme wrote: > > i like the idea of having them during sessions. diversity is good, > > and since it's so free-format, and the same gurus can come back > > (bwb -- bribed with beer) for encores, i think it's a win. > > You mean... there will be a keg behind the table?

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Sander Temme
> i like the idea of having them during sessions. diversity is good, > and since it's so free-format, and the same gurus can come back > (bwb -- bribed with beer) for encores, i think it's a win. You mean... there will be a keg behind the table? I'm in! S. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] htt

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Mads Toftum
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 12:57:08PM -0400, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > i like the idea of having them during sessions. diversity is good, > and since it's so free-format, and the same gurus can come back > (bwb -- bribed with beer) for encores, i think it's a win. Yeah, I think during the day

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: Rich Bowen wrote: OK, I added on in cvs, and then read your note. So it's your preference that these not be going on during sessions? That leaves very little time - just the lunch and coffee breaks. My thought hat been to have these be going on while sessions were g

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Rich Bowen wrote: > > OK, I added on in cvs, and then read your note. So it's your preference > that these not be going on during sessions? That leaves very little time > - just the lunch and coffee breaks. My thought hat been to have these be > going on while sessions were going on for the few fo

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Rich Bowen
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: > > There will be a signup sheet at the conference, but I'd like to get an > > idea now whether we're going to have enough participants to make this > > Please open one in CVS - ideally with days + timeslots which match the > space between session

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Brian McCallister
On Wednesday, September 24, 2003, at 02:59 AM, Dirk-Willem van Gulik wrote: Can we have a GuRu hat, t-shirt of beard; marked with an H, X or J depending on our java, http or xml skills :-) +1, That would be a hilarious gimmick.

Re: Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Rich Bowen wrote: > We tried to do this last year, but nobody really took charge of it, so > it didn't happen. But this year, we're going to make it happen. > > I'd like to have a "The Guru Is In" table in the lounge/lab area, and > have it manned throughout the conference. I

Apachecon: The Guru Is In

2003-09-23 Thread Rich Bowen
We tried to do this last year, but nobody really took charge of it, so it didn't happen. But this year, we're going to make it happen. I'd like to have a "The Guru Is In" table in the lounge/lab area, and have it manned throughout the conference. Ideally, we'd like people from as broad a range of