Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 04:51:50AM -0600, Antonio Gallardo wrote: >... > Just to make things clear to me: The notice in the about box is OBLIGATORY > with ASL 1.1? What about ASL 2.0? Section 4 of AL 2.0 describes the new requirements, and 4d specifically notes that the same kind of acknowledgemen

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 25 fév 2004, à 11:41 Europe/Zurich, Dirk-Willem van Gulik a écrit : ...I'd say something - "you may consider a notice" until you've started to do a new release or something... ok - I'll do so and put you in CC. Thanks for you help! -Bertrand --

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Bertrand Delacretaz dijo: > Le Mercredi, 25 fév 2004, à 11:24 Europe/Zurich, Dirk-Willem van Gulik > a écrit : > >> ...If a _letter_ needs to be written; the foundation needs to >> ultimately send it. But it seems from your >> description that this may get solved without one... > > Certainly, so if

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 25/02/2004, at 11:37 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mercredi, 25 fév 2004, à 11:24 Europe/Zurich, Dirk-Willem van Gulik a écrit : ...If a _letter_ needs to be written; the foundation needs to ultimately send it. But it seems from your description that this may get solved without one... Cer

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 25/02/2004, at 11:29 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: What... you want to grind their noses into it? Not in the least ! Not at all - I thought about a notice as some fair enough free publicity for the ASF and as education (as Dirk-Willem mentions). There's a lot of talk and misconceptions in the

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread jean-frederic clere
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > Le Mercredi, 25 fév 2004, à 11:10 Europe/Zurich, Greg Stein a écrit : > >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:53:02AM +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> >>> ... >>> You're right about the link, so maybe we should just ask for a notice >>> on their website indicating that

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 25 fév 2004, à 11:24 Europe/Zurich, Dirk-Willem van Gulik a écrit : ...If a _letter_ needs to be written; the foundation needs to ultimately send it. But it seems from your description that this may get solved without one... Certainly, so if you're ok I'll just send to them an email

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 25 fév 2004, à 11:10 Europe/Zurich, Greg Stein a écrit : On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:53:02AM +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ... You're right about the link, so maybe we should just ask for a notice on their website indicating that ASF software has been redistributed without the requi

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 25/02/2004, at 8:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Would the foundation write such a letter, or do you want me to do it? If so I'd post the key points here before writing. If a _letter_ needs to be written; the foundation needs to ultimately send it. But it seems from your description that thi

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 25/02/2004, at 8:53 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Would the foundation write such a letter, or do you want me to do it? If so I'd post the key points here before writing. If a _letter_ needs to be written; the foundation needs to ultimately send it. But it seems from your description that thi

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 08:53:02AM +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >... > You're right about the link, so maybe we should just ask for a notice > on their website indicating that ASF software has been redistributed > without the required licences, and that this will be fixed in the next > rele

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 24 fév 2004, à 16:54 Europe/Zurich, Dirk-Willem van Gulik a écrit : ...If you need a formal hand - just ask - but in general what we do in these cases is to write a gentle letter; get a dialoge going, point out the license and then help the other party to come into compliance. The key

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Feb 24, 2004, at 3:21 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I cannot speak for the ASF on legal matters, but personally I don't think legal action is appropriate as they have immediately reacted in the right way, so in my view a "fair compensation" in terms of fixing the problem + public notices wou

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-24 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Feb 24, 2004, at 3:21 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I cannot speak for the ASF on legal matters, but personally I don't think legal action is appropriate as they have immediately reacted in the right way, so in my view a "fair compensation" in terms of fixing the problem + public notices wou

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-24 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Damn, we've got different software here in the Canton of Lucerne. ;-) On 24.02.2004 16:22:07 Ceki Gülcü wrote: > > Living in Lausanne in the Canton of Vaud, I demand to be exempted from > paying taxes until they fix the problem. That is the least they could do. :-) > > At 03:21 PM 2/24/2004 +01

Re: Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-24 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Living in Lausanne in the Canton of Vaud, I demand to be exempted from paying taxes until they fix the problem. That is the least they could do. :-) At 03:21 PM 2/24/2004 +0100, you wrote: Hi all, I found out that my county is publicly distributing tax software which includes ASF software (FOP,

Violation of ASF license, how to resolve?

2004-02-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi all, I found out that my county is publicly distributing tax software which includes ASF software (FOP, xalan, xerces, logj4) but without including the required license. See http://www.vaudtax.vd.ch/ (but it's all in french obviously). As it's tax time around here, they already have distribu