Marcel Holtmann wrote:
[...]
Okay so there has been a fair amount of discussion here but I think
we've veered off track a bit. To try to re-phrase my thoughts:
- Current DBus object paths are application-centric (this is by
choice of the application)
- Without a well-known set of paths
Hi Jim,
Okay so there has been a fair amount of discussion here but I think
we've veered off track a bit. To try to re-phrase my thoughts:
- Current DBus object paths are application-centric (this is by
choice of the application)
the object paths are specific to the daemon (I prefer
ti, 2007-01-30 kello 10:58 +, Jim McDonald kirjoitti:
- Current DBus object paths are application-centric (this is by
choice of the application)
[..snip..]
- There seem to be two options (ignoring the uninteresting ones):
- take a combination of the existing
Marcel Holtmann wrote:
[...]
the question is still why. We have EDS. So no reason to invent another
interface for the same purpose. Don't try to over-complicate things.
So this is an argument against abstraction, which I understand but
disagree with. It comes back to the two choices that
Hi marcel,
the question is still why. We have EDS. So no reason to invent another
interface for the same purpose. Don't try to over-complicate things.
I'm not saying that there should be any change to dbus as it is. I'm
only advocating the 'well-known' part of this all.
I'm saying that it's
Hi Kalle,
the question is still why. We have EDS. So no reason to invent another
interface for the same purpose. Don't try to over-complicate things.
I'm not saying that there should be any change to dbus as it is. I'm
only advocating the 'well-known' part of this all.
nobody was talking
Thanks, guys! That's just what I needed!
Can't get wait to play with Neo1973 after 2007-03-11!!!
26.01.07, Marc Verwerft [EMAIL PROTECTED] написал(а):
Try google like this:
'keyword site:http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community'
e.g.
'agps
Am Dienstag, 30. Januar 2007 04:24 schrieben Sie:
Then on what basis, Oleg, do you make the statement Free-Software-only
is the goal without prefixing that sentence with In my opinion ... ?
Because it's an unmoderated community list, and not an
On 1/30/07 2:20 PM, Carlo E. Prelz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My question is: would the GSM chip has a modem
for data connections and also fax support?
Good question. And if it is, is it a standard class 1 faxmodem like
common with GSM mobiles nowaday?
Related question: is it possible to
On 1/30/07 2:22 AM, Mary Stovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The pictures of the Neo show a clock. Will this be a world clock?
I would really like one so that when I get to Germany next year, I
can keep track of time back home for making my calls. One with
ability to set alarms would be great.
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 19:14, Jeremy Nikolai scribbled in crayon on
the back of a kid's menu:
I thought I read something a while ago that the first generation Neo
_wasn't_ going to be multitouch capable, and it hasn't been mentioned
in the specs recently - does anyone know definitively
On 1/31/07 12:32 AM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So can you say us already a little more about the GSM chip?
Sure. We're using a Ti Calypso chipset. Unfortunately this stuff is all
under _super_ NDA :-(
AKA: If I post a datasheet I would get the CEO of FIC fired within 24 hours
;-)
Hi All
I am very excited about this phone! Cannot wait to get my hands on one!
I was wondering, I have been searched the mailing list, but can't seem to
find an answer. Will it be possible to connect a powered USB HUB into the
1973. So that for example the phone can charge, have a USB WiFi
Salve Michael!
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Michael Fletcher wrote:
I was wondering, I have been searched the mailing list, but can't seem to
find an answer. Will it be possible to connect a powered USB HUB into the
1973. So that for example the phone can charge, have a USB WiFi dongle
attached and
On 1/30/07 8:31 AM, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller writes:
Isn't very complex either - Linux system time is UTC and can be
synced through nntp while network access exists.
Do you mean NTP?
What, you don't set your watch by USENET...?
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:02:42AM +0100, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
* Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070129 22:58]:
My question is: would the GSM chip has a modem
for data connections and also fax support?
Good question. And if it is, is it a standard class 1 faxmodem like
common with GSM
On Saturday 27 January 2007 08:31, ROB scribbled in crayon on the back of a
kid's menu:
I would like a blender and a toaster (for small toast... I realize
that including a full size toaster would make the phone a lot less
portable.)
If the phone could also work as an electric razor and
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
On 1/31/07 12:32 AM, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So can you say us already a little more about the GSM chip?
Sure. We're using a Ti Calypso chipset. Unfortunately this stuff is all
under _super_ NDA :-(
Isn't the AT-capable port going to be available to
On Sunday 28 January 2007 14:14, Declan Naughton scribbled in crayon on the
back of a kid's menu:
openmoko-whining, too.
Don't forget openmoko-flame
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On Tuesday 30 January 2007 05:03, Marcel Holtmann scribbled in crayon on the
back of a kid's menu:
And again. Nobody is going to change D-Bus. It works like it does, but
you need to understand how it works.
Newbie to Dbus question: any suggestions for a good place to get started on
gaining
Therefore it'd require a lot of standardisation to create such a thing
where these all would be just another device of type X. If this was
possible then we *could* have a dbus address that has a program that
could advertise these features. Like this:
/xx/yy/zz NETWORKING_FEATURE
Harald Welte wrote:
yes, the GSM Modem we use has standard AT command Fax modem functionality.
I'm not 100% sure about everything I'm about to say, but I vaguely remember
some things from a similar discussion a while back.
In order for you to send/receive fax via a GSM connection requires you
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 17:03, Christopher Heiny wrote:
On Saturday 27 January 2007 08:31, ROB scribbled in crayon on the back of a
kid's menu:
I would like a blender and a toaster (for small toast... I realize
that including a full size toaster would make the phone a lot less
* Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070130 18:46]:
Harald Welte wrote:
yes, the GSM Modem we use has standard AT command Fax modem functionality.
I'm not 100% sure about everything I'm about to say, but I vaguely remember
some things from a similar discussion a while back.
In order for
Salve Rob!
Thanks for the answer, so if I understand correctly, it should all work
together simultaneously - assuming drivers are working correct -
although the Neo1973 will most likely not charge...
Cheers
--Michael
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 17:47 +0100, Robert Michel wrote:
Salve Michael!
On
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Al Johnson wrote:
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 17:03, Christopher Heiny wrote:
On Saturday 27 January 2007 08:31, ROB scribbled in crayon on the back of a
kid's menu:
I would like a blender and a toaster (for small toast... I realize
that including a full size toaster
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
* Jonathon Suggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070130 18:46]:
Harald Welte wrote:
yes, the GSM Modem we use has standard AT command Fax modem functionality.
I'm not 100% sure about everything I'm about to say, but I vaguely remember
some things from a
Salve,
I can't understand why Blackberry and other has become
so big into the market, because the server side software
for a push service are normal linux admins tools.
But wait - the client side need some open programmable
devices - like OpenMoko and the Neo1973 :)))
When GPRS is always on,
I live in the US but regularly travel to Hungary, and I have a second
SIM card for use abroad. I know it's too late for v1, but for future
versions of the phone, I'd find it useful for the phone to support a
second SIM card.
There a few different ways it could do this. Here are some
Problem solved, as in option 2:
http://www.dualsim.de/
I fear that having two GSM modules does not make sense in a general
phone. (Despite the fact that I do have SIMs from two countries ;) )
Andreas
* Myk Melez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070130 21:31]:
I live in the US but regularly travel to
Salve José!
Welcome to Openmoko :)
I'm just a student tring to support the community,
so we do not have an official list moderator,
and the official openmoko team member are very busy.
Your mail was send to the wrong list...
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, José Suárez wrote:
Hi to everybody.
I've been
Salve Myk!
Welcome to openmoko community :)
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007, Myk Melez wrote:
I live in the US but regularly travel to Hungary, and I have a second
SIM card for use abroad. I know it's too late for v1, but for future
versions of the phone, I'd find it useful for the phone to support
I can try to help to translate to Russian.
2007/1/30, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Salve José!
Welcome to Openmoko :)
I'm just a student tring to support the community,
so we do not have an official list moderator,
and the official openmoko team member are very busy.
Your mail was send to
Awhile back someone joined the list and said that while he wasn't a
programmer, he was a graphic artist and would like to help in some way. A few
days later Jon Phillips introduced himself and mentioned the Creative Commons
license. This got me thinking about ways that non-programmers could
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 2007 Jan 30 at 23:11 -0500 wrote:
Awhile back someone joined the list and said that while he wasn't a
programmer, he was a graphic artist and would like to help in some way.
I, too, am new to the OpenMoko community. I have only done a little
programming in my life and
I am not sure to well understand how works this new screen generation
(multi-point touch screen)...
Can he discern the force of pressure exercised with the finger over the
screen (weak, normal or strong)?
Can anybody confirm it?
If yes, we would be able to built a music application like a
Elliot F. wrote:
Or you could simply modify the mail server to trigger a script when a
message is delivered, rather than having to poll each directory/file.
A procmail/maildrop filter would be one way to implement it easily
(allowing you to filter for messages from specific people, to certain
I have been playing around with MGTalk which is a java midlet for google
talk. It has some sort of push email notification that works with my gmail
account. I have not looked any deeper but maybe using a modified jabber
server one could create an open source push email server. Although it is
nice
Brad Midgley wrote:
If you do go this route, I'd suggest you get a class 1 bluetooth
adapter. You won't get 100m range, but in my experience when one side of
the bluetooth link is a class 1 radio, you'll increase the range by 50
to 100% over the standard 10m. The bluetake bt007ex is a great
* Elliot F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070131 03:45]:
Robert Michel wrote:
Salve,
I can't understand why Blackberry and other has become
so big into the market, because the server side software
for a push service are normal linux admins tools.
But wait - the client side need some open programmable
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Awhile back someone joined the list and said that while he wasn't a
programmer, he was a graphic artist and would like to help in some way. A few
days later Jon Phillips introduced himself and mentioned the Creative Commons
license. This got me thinking about ways
And me could help in Spanish translation, but I suppose it's being done by FIC.
Best regards,
2007/1/30, Denis Kot [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I can try to help to translate to Russian.
2007/1/30, Robert Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Salve José!
Welcome to Openmoko :)
I'm just a student tring to
David Ford wrote:
Elliot F. wrote:
Or you could simply modify the mail server to trigger a script when a
message is delivered, rather than having to poll each directory/file.
A procmail/maildrop filter would be one way to implement it easily
(allowing you to filter for messages from specific
Andreas Kostyrka wrote:
* Elliot F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070131 03:45]:
Or you could simply modify the mail server to trigger a script when a message is delivered, rather than having to poll each directory/file. A procmail/maildrop filter would be one way
to implement it easily (allowing you to
Google talk has a persistent connection between the client and the
server. With a persistent connection, pushing data is pretty easy.
Jae Stutzman wrote:
I have been playing around with MGTalk which is a java midlet for google
talk. It has some sort of push email notification that works with
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