Re: Phone Call Security

2007-06-03 Thread Mikko Rauhala
su, 2007-06-03 kello 07:08 +0200, Ortwin Regel kirjoitti: IIRC there has been lots of discussion about this a few months back. Take a look at the mailing list archives or the wiki if you can find it! Spesifically, see subjects Voice over GPRS? and Encrypting voice communications in the

Any updates?? now that we have passed the original date for the second test production run.

2007-06-03 Thread Aanjhan R
Hi, On 5/31/07, Alan Ide [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still waiting on baited breathe for news. I know that the original test run that was slated for a couple weeks ago got pushed back, but what about the second run that was supposed to happen. How did the run go (if there has been a run yet).

RE: Phone Call Security

2007-06-03 Thread Dean Collins
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:community- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikko Rauhala Sent: Sunday, 3 June 2007 9:09 AM To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Phone Call Security Either way, at least Moko-to-Moko encrypted calls are quite possible to

Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread openmokolist . 50 . minime
Hi list, I got some news to share with you. As of Mickey's OpenMoko-talk at the Berliner LinuxTag (LinuxDay) there are some new hardware information: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh And the finally thing

Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread openmokolist . 50 . minime
... so excited that I completly forgot to give you my source: http://sicherheitsschwankung.de/gallery/v/openmoko/IMG_8662-slide.JPG.html tim/minime ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread kenneth marken
Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh oh ye flippin gods! yes, now we are talking phone! im seriously looking forward to seeing what people can make of this device :D

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Dylan McCall
Samsung S3C2442/400 does 400 mHz, right? That almost beats the ancient and huge PC I am typing this on right now. (Just 50 mHz short). And if we count bluetooth, touch screen and form factor, that PC is now useless except as a file server! (Well, assuming the graphics accelerator is nice. It

Re: Phone Call Security

2007-06-03 Thread Matthew S. Hamrick
Encrypted voice calls is a question that's been around for a while. When I worked for RSA and later Certicom, we had frequent discussions about the strength (or lack thereof) of the LFSR-based encryption that was then in frequent use in GSM phones. I should probably mention that GSM and

[Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread kenneth marken
An one more thing.. Is there a camera for the phone too? Just because I saw on the Samsung's website that it has a camera support: Camera Interface supporting up to 4096 x 4096 resolution (2048 x 2048 pixel input support for scaling)

[Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread kenneth marken
3dacceleration? That means 3D desktop can be done now? Or what should we think of that? Dan On 6/3/07, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh oh ye flippin gods! yes,

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread Richard Boehme
Hmm, does that list mean that the GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth? Also, it would be nice to know when GTA-02 has been pushed back to. Does anyone have any information on that? Thanks. Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread Edwin Lock
Does this mean the Neo 1973 has this hardware? That would just be fantastic :) When will Phase 2 be ready? 3d desktop would be really cool too, but I think the desktop at the moment is best for such a small screen.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Denis Parchenko
Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh That would be f%%%ing great =) And what's about price of GTA-02? =#=-===-===#=--- - -- -=#=-- - - - - Best regards, Denis

Neo's update news...

2007-06-03 Thread Bernardo Pellegrini
Some interesting news about the Neo Ph.2 upgrade can be found in the video of OpenMoko presentation at Tossug. This is the URL: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984 Enjoy... Saluti...:) Bernardo. ___ OpenMoko community

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Zack Shivers
Excellent news. I'm looking forward do doing development on such a rich platform, in terms of both the hardware and software. Any word on what specific chip the graphics acceleration will be? Also, I know people have been asking a lot for Wifi, which is definitely a good feature considering the

Re: Neo's update news...

2007-06-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know it's off topic, sorry. But, what the f**k is printed on that poster behind the guy talking (in the beginning)??? lol Cheers, Daniel Bernardo Pellegrini wrote: This is the URL: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8574715471341709984

Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]

2007-06-03 Thread Frank Coenen
No... Look at the rest ;-) That would also mean that GTA02 doesn't have a gsm-chip :-p The GTA02 part simply says what it has extra to the GTAb_v4 On 6/3/07, Richard Boehme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, does that list mean that the GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth? Also, it would be

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Ortwin Regel
Sounds great! Now I have to figure out if I wait for phase 2 or get a phase 1 device ASAP and upgrade later... I really need a phone NOW but I also need a phone with Wifi, Accelerometers and more raw power! B) Ortwin On 6/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, I got some

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Sonntag, 3. Juni 2007 17:00 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator This one needs more clarification. I doubt that it will be some ATI chipset. Oleg. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Neo's update news...

2007-06-03 Thread Peter Hoffmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I know it's off topic, sorry. But, what the f**k is printed on that poster behind the guy talking (in the beginning)??? lol http://www.lasaveurdelapasteque.com/movhd.html Regards Peter ___ OpenMoko community mailing

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2007/6/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh Well, GTA-01 is now definitely dead on arrival. Without finished software is hasn't any chance. My bet: it won't be sold at

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Hans Cats
2007/6/3, Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/6/3, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Phase 2 (GTA-02) will feature: -a 2D/3D-Graphics Accelerator -256MByte of Flash Memory -WiFi -updated battery: 1700mAh Well, GTA-01 is now definitely dead on arrival. Without finished software

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Frank Coenen
Developers, developers, developers!!! (Steve Balmer style, if you know what I mean). It will be a while for GTA_02 to come out. The GTA_01 batch will probably be sold to (community)developers. Hardware will of course be continually upgraded, but you have to start somewere with the software.

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Mark Eichin
Well, GTA-01 is now definitely dead on arrival. Without finished software is hasn't any chance. My bet: it won't be sold at all, nobody would buy it now. GTA-02 will be the first model on sale. Am I correct? Not a chance. It's a common mistake (sometimes called The Osborne Mistake after

Re: Any updates?? now that we have passed the original date for the second test production run.

2007-06-03 Thread Robin Paulson
On 6/4/07, Aanjhan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some updates here. http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/06/02#20070602-busy-busy-busy70 Reggies. -- Aanjhan this is not a complaint as such, but the statement I can't publicly state what's going on with regard to OpenMoko internally from

Re: Neo1973 Update!

2007-06-03 Thread Jeff Andros
On 6/3/07, Tomasz Zielinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well, GTA-01 is now definitely dead on arrival. Without finished software is hasn't any chance. My bet: it won't be sold at all, nobody would buy it now. GTA-02 will be the first model on sale. /snip Actually, I think this is great

Re: Phone Call Security

2007-06-03 Thread Raphaƫl Jacquot
Matthew S. Hamrick wrote: terrorists, let me just remind you that outside the US, there's some pretty clear evidence that national governments are eavesdropping on the conversations of traveling tech company executives and passing economic intelligence along to competing companies in their own