This suggests that altitude might be something to check as well,
though as someone else pointed out that's a little late to enable
flight mode :)
Why do you always think of planes when speaking of altitude? What about
Mountain-climbing? Paragliding? Deltaplanes? Private Ultralight-Planes?
I found an interesting strip inside of the neoPouch. Last but not least we can
fix our stylus there :)
OT:
My phone received at about 09:30 :) and I'm from Germany ...
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On Jul 30, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Rod Whitby wrote:
Ah cripes, who freaking *CARES* about the Graffiti trademark ..
Hmm ... someone could just as well say:
Ah cripes, who freaking *CARES* about the OpenMoko trademark ..
Is someone actually developing something which uses the OpenMoko
Worrying about worrying about the trademark issue is even more irrelevant.
Pointing things like this out early is a good thing. Further discussion
about the trademark issue isn't necessary, though, it's annoying.
Ortwin
On 7/30/07, Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 30, 2007, at 7:50
Agreed. So can we try to maintain focus on the immediate tactical
and technical advances that we can actually accomplish?
;
On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:21 PM, Ortwin Regel wrote:
Worrying about worrying about the trademark issue is even more
irrelevant.
Pointing things like this out early is
On 30 Jul 2007, at 11:21, Ortwin Regel wrote:
Worrying about worrying about the trademark issue is even more
irrelevant.
Pointing things like this out early is a good thing. Further
discussion about the trademark issue isn't necessary, though, it's
annoying.
What if they contribute
Harald Welte wrote:
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:07:44PM -0400, Kyle Bassett wrote:
Harald,
I am curious, what do you estimate the cost (as a percentage or dollar
amount) that the GTA02 board kit would run compared to the expected $450
base price? I do prefer your idea about selling the
I just got my Neo (yay)!
First impressions: Flashing is frustratingly slow when you want to get
tinkering ;) But really, the phone itself is a lot faster than I
expected what with all the complaints; granted, optimizations may have
crept in since then, but anyway I didn't feel it especially
Jay Vaughan wrote:
it just happens that Graffiti is what people know finger painting on
your PDA to be .. its common enough to warrant usage as a word
referring to the activity of finger-painting symbols for recognition
on a devices surface.
No, sorry, this is incorrect, and precisely _why_ I
On Jul 30, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Mikko J Rauhala wrote:
Further tinkering will have to wait until tonight. Thanks to the team;
it's been a rocky road (I'm sure I don't even know how rocky exactly),
and longer than expected, but a significant milestone has been
reached.
And it don't seem half
I just think it's a bit rich to be following this project if you
don't care about creative freedom. I'd much sooner create a new
input system anyway.
i'm rather fond of using xyz position sensors to roll balls around
word-chains, myself .. in my opinion there definitely ought to be
more
Giles Jones wrote:
Except that OpenMoko is a completely made up phrase which has no other
use in the English language.
That's completely irrelevant, I'm afraid. (By the way, there was a Cafe
Moko right around the corner from my hotel in London; I've got a
picture of the sign someplace...)
On 30 Jul 2007, at 15:35, David Lefty Schlesinger wrote:
Trademarks exist in specific contexts for particular usages,
they're not
a global thing. I'm obligated to deal with trademark law as I find it;
if you wish it were something different, you'll need to write your
Congressional
So by using fingers instead of a stylus we're not talking about the
same use case anyway.
That's certainly not clear to me.
Are you policing this project for violations?
Not at all, that's a silly idea; as I've said, I simply _am_ obligated
to point out when a trademark held by my employer is
On Jul 30, 2007, at 4:35 PM, David Lefty Schlesinger wrote:
Trademarks exist in specific contexts for particular usages,
they're not
a global thing. I'm obligated to deal with trademark law as I find it;
if you wish it were something different, you'll need to write your
Congressional
On 30 Jul 2007, at 16:08, David Schlesinger wrote:
Not at all, that's a silly idea; as I've said, I simply _am_ obligated
to point out when a trademark held by my employer is being misused,
and
that's simply a condition of having the trademark.
True, but these are just ramblings, the
Bah, forget graffiti! It's too difficult; the computer should be able to
help you with it, but it doesn't. It essentially says do this unnecessary
work. Using graffiti is like using a help file. (And I have a pretty long
rant on those somewhere).
If a really clever person sat down and drew lots
While I do find most of the GPS based ideas intriguing I do have one comment.
Power usage!
I wonder if you have realised that the GPS consumes large quantities of current.
(45 mW according to
Giles Jones writes:
Are you policing this project for violations?
Look, he pointed out a potential trademark issue, which will have to
be considered if some sort of ungraffiti is to be distributed. There
really isn't any reason to keep going on about it.
Hi folks,
Does anybody know how can I see the IMEI number?
Thanks,
emre
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On 30 Jul 2007, at 16:45, Visti Andresen wrote:
While I do find most of the GPS based ideas intriguing I do have
one comment.
Power usage!
Then you simply have an update timer. Tell the phone to update it's
position at a configurable time period, say every 5 minutes.
Are you policing this project for violations?
Look, he pointed out a potential trademark issue, which will have to
be considered if some sort of ungraffiti is to be distributed. There
really isn't any reason to keep going on about it.
right. so how would this ungraffiti work, exactly?
On 30 Jul 2007, at 17:05, Emre Turkay wrote:
Hi folks,
Does anybody know how can I see the IMEI number?
Thanks,
emre
Tried *#06#
?
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At least on my phone, this was printed out underneath the battery,
inside the case :)
cheers!
-scott
Emre Turkay wrote:
Hi folks,
Does anybody know how can I see the IMEI number?
Thanks,
emre
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Hi,
On 7/30/07, Scott Rushforth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At least on my phone, this was printed out underneath the battery,
inside the case :)
Just in case!
I believe you can also use AT+CGSN.
SK
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On 07/29/2007 Jim McDonald wrote:
[...]
We want to build _the_ best open mobile device in the world. 100%
open.
Only when we reach this point will our strengths be appreciated
by the
mainstream user.
I understand the thinking here, but the mainstream user will neither
On 07/30/2007 Mark Arvidson wrote:
[snip]
Freeing the phone to be a platform, not just a crude, limited tool is
where this project needs to go. It may seem like a slow couple of
years before this really infects our entire culture, but I think it's
inevitable now.
Exactly!
-Sean
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:59:51 +0100
Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Visti Andresen wrote:
While I do find most of the GPS based ideas intriguing I do have one
comment.
Power usage!
I wonder if you have realised that the GPS consumes large quantities of
Visti Andresen wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:59:51 +0100
Ian Stirling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Visti Andresen wrote:
While I do find most of the GPS based ideas intriguing I do have one comment.
Power usage!
I wonder if you have realised that the GPS consumes large quantities
On 30 Jul 2007, at 17:54, Visti Andresen wrote:
But does a GPS not require large amounts of time to get a new fix?
Hot startup 12s, average
Warm startup 38s, average
Cold startup 60s, average
(random data from http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11694061/
Bluetooth_GPS_Receiver.html)
Depends
Thanks, I looked all over /dev/ ;)
emre
On 7/30/07, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
On 7/30/07, Scott Rushforth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At least on my phone, this was printed out underneath the battery,
inside the case :)
Just in case!
I believe you can also use AT+CGSN.
On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 15:14 -0500, Adam Krikstone wrote:
I see no mention of GTA03 (2.5G/EDGE?), GTX01/02 (3G?) on the official
wiki anymore.
http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counterredirect=no#Other_future_devices
Another:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/HXD8
I
I tried to reply to my Order shipped message, since the UPS tracking
number listed in the message is not recognized by UPS's online package
tracking app (it says the number is not a valid tracking number), but
[EMAIL PROTECTED] responded Permission denied (see below).
How can I get a correct
On 7/27/07, Florent THIERY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I never heard about it, but it looks interesting (following the
physics-inspired/verlet integration ramble some months ago on this
very list)
http://www.mdk.org.pl/articles/2007/04/23/chapter-1-in-which-we-meet-graff
Be sure to check out
The number they gave you was probably issued to them by their UPS shipping
program or from their shipping book. If it hasn't been picked up yet and
processed by UPS' shipping system, it won't be recognized. Check back at the
end of the day and you should be good to go.
On 7/30/07, Myk Melez
ma, 2007-07-30 kello 15:51 -0500, Adam Krikstone kirjoitti:
I see no mention of it anywhere on the wiki or lists. Does anyone know
the FCC ID?
The unit I received today has a sticker saying FCC ID: EUNGTA01BV4
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mine has it printed under the battery:
fcc id: EUNGTA01BV4
cheers
-scott
Adam Krikstone wrote:
I see no mention of it anywhere on the wiki or lists. Does anyone
know the FCC ID?
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Lon Lentz wrote:
The number they gave you was probably issued to them by their UPS
shipping program or from their shipping book. If it hasn't been picked
up yet and processed by UPS' shipping system, it won't be recognized.
Check back at the end of the day and you should be good to go.
Cairo, as suggested, will not be an option in near future, since it
does 32bpp graphics and the conversion will kill our hardware.
fwiw, its quite feasible to do nice assembly-based BPP conversion on
ARM and involves a decidedly negligible hit on performance .. don't
count cairo out of
On the wiki, I've seen this information (assumption):
http://londerings.novalis.org/wlog/index.php?title=Neo1973_counterredirect=no#P2_.28GTA02.29
snip
GTA02 Hardware:
Probably: New power management (Upgrade or change: Should now allow
to remove power completely from GSM part)
snip
Does
This is addressed to people who have successfully navigated t-mobile's
thicket: wouldn't it be nice if their web page gave good, complete,
technical information?
Anyway, my reading of their page is that to get web access on the
phone I need to add their T-MobileWeb service, but I don't need
More info than you probably want:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=518666
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile
http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
This is addressed to people who have successfully navigated t-mobile's
thicket:
Ian Stirling wrote:
I would like to see a bare GTA01 board being available - even after
GTA02 becomes available.
There was some previous mention of available parts. I'd like to be able
to buy the plastic case. That way I would have the option of possibly
doing a little hardware hacking along
Dan Trevino writes:
I have their $5.99 internet plan working with my unsupported Treo 680.
After reading the posts to howardforums (thanks Adam!), I have to ask:
when you say it's working, does that mean you can go to an arbitrary
URL and see what's there?
Not physically -- I had no problem plugging it into the phone. But
where does it appear to the software? where is it in /dev? Is it
automatically mounted at boot time? What's the mountpoint?
Foolish question, I know...
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On 7/30/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dan Trevino writes:
I have their $5.99 internet plan working with my unsupported Treo 680.
After reading the posts to howardforums (thanks Adam!), I have to ask:
when you say it's working, does that mean you can go to an arbitrary
URL and
Jeff Rush wrote:
Adam Krikstone wrote:
I see no mention of it anywhere on the wiki or lists. Does anyone
know the FCC ID?
I'm curious of what use that information is -- does the registration
point to information at the FCC that says something about the
functioning of the phone? Are you
Just curious. It will give info like SAR and other testing information
like the upcoming Nokia E90 here:
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/fcc_query.php?gc=PYApc=RA-6
I was more curious about the draft consumer documentation/manual that
they submitted or lack their of.
When it does get
Nkoli writes:
The only difference between T-Mobile Web and T-Mobile Internet on the phone
is that T-Mobile Internet allows VPN while T-Mobile Web doesn't. You can
access any arbitrary html or wap site on your phone with both plans. I've
been using the cheaper plan since their t-zones unlimited
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