Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Ulrik Rasmussen
Until my mail client gives me a reply to list ONLY command, I vote for changing reply-to to BE THE LIST. My email client has a reply to list. I use KMail. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

usb0 ifup/down requirement.

2007-08-15 Thread Emre Turkay
Hi folks, Although I have auto in the interfaces file for usb0, every time I disconnect/reconnect or turn on/off the device I need to type ifdown usb0 ifup usb0 for neo to connect to the device. Any ideas? Thanks, emre ___ OpenMoko community mailing

Re: usb0 ifup/down requirement.

2007-08-15 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
On 8/15/07, Emre Turkay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Although I have auto in the interfaces file for usb0, every time I disconnect/reconnect or turn on/off the device I need to type ifdown usb0 ifup usb0 for neo to connect to the device. Any ideas? I am using allow-hotplug usb0

East Coast USA GSM Provider

2007-08-15 Thread Jimmy McMillan
My Neo will be in sometime today, and I was wanting to here from some others regarding a service plan I should use. I've been told in #openmoko that ATT's SIM Cards are having problems and that T-Mobile's pre-paid service doesn't allow data transfers. I'm right outside of Philadelphia, and

Open Hardware

2007-08-15 Thread Derek Potts
Something occurred to me the other day... I was thinking about how great it will be to have this phone that has an almost completely open hardware arch. Then it struck me, I'll have a phone that is more open than any laptop I've ever owned! I'm going to get a new laptop soon, and I would love to

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On 8/15/07, Allan Savolainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And another 'pls don't change it'. One would think that in this day Here is another voice from the silent majority - please do NOT change the way the list is set up. As for the reply to issue - either live with the way your mail

Re: Using Qemu

2007-08-15 Thread Mathew Davis
I was being dumb it's being blocked by the firewall. Sorry about that all. On 8/14/07, Mathew Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok running through the process again I noticed something I was missing before. I am getting the following error svn: PROPFIND request failed on

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Andre Schmidt
On Wed, 2007-08-15 at 10:16 +0200, Ulrik Rasmussen wrote: Until my mail client gives me a reply to list ONLY command, I vote for changing reply-to to BE THE LIST. My email client has a reply to list. I use KMail. mine (evolution) too. i just hit ctrl+l to answer to list... and all lists

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Ray Lehtiniemi
On Wednesday 15 August 2007 12:48, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hello, On 8/15/07, Allan Savolainen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And another 'pls don't change it'. One would think that in this day Here is another voice from the silent majority - please do NOT change the way the list is set up.

RE: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Dean Collins
Maybe not but at least we know not to resend the same email 20 times. over and over..and overand over. Cheers, Dean From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: Tuesday, 14 August 2007 10:22

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread hank williams
... why should all mailing lists change their standard? behaviour only cause some minority? (poll?) of email clients dont support these functions ? I will no longer discuss the merits of this issue, but I feel obliged to address two factually inaccurate statements. 1. Gmail is not a

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Giles Jones
On 15 Aug 2007, at 20:39, Dean Collins wrote: Maybe not but at least we know not to resend the same email 20 times….. over and over……and over….and over….. That's an ongoing problem with GMail and this list. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: Open Hardware

2007-08-15 Thread Robin Paulson
On 8/16/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to get a new laptop soon, and I would love to find one that is designed with the same dream in mind that drove the design of the Neo. Does such a thing exist? What kind of laptops do the open-hardware-purists on this

Re: Open Hardware

2007-08-15 Thread Robin Paulson
On 8/16/07, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/16/07, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to get a new laptop soon, and I would love to find one that is designed with the same dream in mind that drove the design of the Neo. Does such a thing exist? What

which build system works for you?

2007-08-15 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
Hi, I'd like to use the same mechanism the core developers use for building openmoko images, so I can help with testing, and start writing my own apps using the latest code and style as the rest of openmoko. The problem is the wiki contains many different ways to build openmoko and they are

RE: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Dean Collins
So is that one voteor twoor three.(or however many more times your email client is going to send the same message over and over). :) Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -Original Message-

Re: which build system works for you?

2007-08-15 Thread Rod Whitby
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: I'd like to use the same mechanism the core developers use for building openmoko images, so I can help with testing, and start writing my own apps using the latest code and style as the rest of openmoko. Yes, this is the goal of the MokoMakefile - to build the image

Re: Open Hardware

2007-08-15 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re: Open Hardware Date: gio 16 ago 07 08:45:37 +1200 Quoting Robin Paulson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): i don't have one myself, but the system76 range are designed from the ground up to be open, and are supplied with ubuntu installed. they have all sorts of options, and the

Re: Fwd: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Robin Farine
OK, since we are having fun with mailing-list classics, here is another one... Bonus point, it is even not limited to mailing-lists. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Nick Johnson
On 8/16/07, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is that one voteor twoor three.(or however many more times your email client is going to send the same message over and over). Wasn't it established that the problem was with the list server taking ages to send an OK response to

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-15 Thread t3st3r
Jeff Andros wrote: simple... display contact info(email, friend's phone number, etc) to return the phone at the login screen... This will be a pretty good reason even for quite dumb evildoers (who is not willing to return device to you on their own) to reflash device with default\empty

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Giles Jones
On 15 Aug 2007, at 23:30, Nick Johnson wrote: Wasn't it established that the problem was with the list server taking ages to send an OK response to messages, and the gmail (and some other) servers simply giving up? Seems like more of an issue with the list than with the client. That maybe

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Nick Johnson
On 8/16/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Aug 2007, at 23:30, Nick Johnson wrote: Wasn't it established that the problem was with the list server taking ages to send an OK response to messages, and the gmail (and some other) servers simply giving up? Seems like more of an issue

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Giles Jones
On 16 Aug 2007, at 00:07, Nick Johnson wrote: The list server is clearly the issue here, failing to accept messages in a timely fashion. It's only affecting GMail messages. Plus that RFC you quoted says recommended 30 minute retry but GMail is retrying every 8 minutes.

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread t3st3r
hank williams wrote: I think that this is not useful at all. Actually it would be quite useful. I'm do not thinking so.It will waste valuable space in Subject column of message list with STUPID and REDUNDANT tags which carry no useful info at all and just wasting space in Subject

Re: mailing list management

2007-08-15 Thread Nick Johnson
On 8/16/07, Giles Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Aug 2007, at 00:07, Nick Johnson wrote: The list server is clearly the issue here, failing to accept messages in a timely fashion. It's only affecting GMail messages. I believe people with providers other than gmail (and not just those

Re: Fingerscroll, foofone and more from people.openmoko.org!

2007-08-15 Thread mokoNinja
On Aug 14, 2007, at 9:52 PM, Santiago Crespo wrote: And there are more interesting stuff, just find it: http://people.openmoko.org I`ll also be posting everything on youtube for anyone interested: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=mokoNinja Cheers,

Re: usb0 ifup/down requirement.

2007-08-15 Thread Emre Turkay
Yep, using Feisty. Thanks for the information. emre On 8/15/07, Brian Brunswick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/08/07, Emre Turkay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, Although I have auto in the interfaces file for usb0, every time I disconnect/reconnect or turn on/off the device I need