Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Jay Vaughan
On Nov 26, 2007, at 1:19 AM, flexd wrote: If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? When you're a political dissident who is investigating the crimes of officials and politicians. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ OpenMoko commu

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Jeff Andros
On 11/25/07, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can people ever be compelled to supply > truthful GPS information to LEO as long as open source cellphones are > legal? > OK, legal matters aside, your network operators ALWAYS know where your phone is: cell towers can triangulat

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Joe Pfeiffer > With an extreme effort of will, I'm not responding with a libertarian > post. Please, let's not go off into politics here Ok. For a technical slant. Can people ever be compelled to supply truthful GPS information to LEO as long as open source cellphones are legal? We can al

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
flexd writes: >If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? With an extreme effort of will, I'm not responding with a libertarian post. Please, let's not go off into politics here ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@li

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Piotr Duda
Ian Darwin pisze: [...] > And you can power off any cell phone, [...] This could not be enough. At the beginning of this list there was some discussion about a case where feds recorded chats of some mafia guy with his own car's mobile, which was turned off. IIRC that was possible because the

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 01:19 +0100, flexd wrote: > If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? Ah. The old "if you don't have anything to be afraid of" argument. It's pretty tired, but if you insist ... 1) The law is an ass. There's a big difference between breaking the law a

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Ian Darwin
flexd wrote: If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? Are you serious? Or was that tongue-in-cheek? That's entirely the wrong kind of question to ask. The question is: if you just obey the law, why would they need to track you? And so, why do they need these powers ov

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Ortwin Regel
If they suspect you anyway. Quote: *In some cases, judges have granted the requests without even requiring the government to demonstrate probable cause that a crime is taking place or that the inquiry will yield evidence of a crime * I wonder how difficult it would be for criminals or the music in

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Michael Shiloh
Didn't you see "Brazil"? flexd wrote: If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? justin daly skrev: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/196229&from=rss please don't let the rest of the world

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread Brandon Kruse
I agree with you, obey the law. But many people want privacy at all costs, even if they are obeying the law. I know its a distorted idea and thought, but people want the ability to not be limited, and the ability to do something illegal :P -bk On Nov 25, 2007, at 6:19 PM, flexd <[EMAIL P

Re: /. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread flexd
If you just obey the law, when will they ever need to track you? justin daly skrev: http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/196229&from=rss please don't let the rest of the world fall under the same privacy stranglehol

/. : Feds Have Access To Cellphone Tracking On Request

2007-11-25 Thread justin daly
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/11/23/196229&from=rss please don't let the rest of the world fall under the same privacy stranglehold. i wholeheartedly support this open platform that gives its users the control to turn -any- of its radios on or off at will (of the operator...). thank

Hardware addition ideas for >(=) GTA03

2007-11-25 Thread wolfgang_a_h
Hi all, I just found this: http://www.bellpepper.eu/en/index.php This phone has dual SIM capability, but not only can 2 SIMs be inserted (there are already "splitters" for this), they are both active at the same time (i.e. two HF units)! I've been looking for soemthing like this for quite some t

Re: Where are the updates?

2007-11-25 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi List, Last update was supposed to be just over 2 weeks ago, so I am a little late. I'm working on it now. Cailan: I plan to send an update at least every two weeks, more often if there is anything to report in between. Visit http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates for p

Re: Where are the updates?

2007-11-25 Thread Michael Shiloh
Good idea. This was mentioned before and I haven't done it yet. I'll copy the next update to the announce list. Michael justin daly wrote: i think it is, but i don't think everyone's hooked up to an rss iv. at least during the holidays :) any chance for an update on the announce list? happy

Re: palm apps on linux?

2007-11-25 Thread Ortwin Regel
I NEED this on my Neo, coming from a Tapwave Zodiac... I guess it's up to Access to do it. I wonder if they've got a deal with Nokia? And if not, what's the business model? I'd be willing to pay a reasonable sum for a Palm emulator on my Neo. Ortwin On Nov 21, 2007 5:26 AM, Matthew Naftzger <[EMA

Re: Gphone isn't open, linux dev not possible

2007-11-25 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Nov 22, 2007 2:00 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > > > Hello, > > > I'm on Ubuntu 7.10 (i386). > > What do I need in addition to the loop module: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# losetup -v /dev/loop0 > > /home/tingo/work/openmoko/qtopia-root