Re: Yet Another Map Application

2008-02-25 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:30:54 +0100 Schmidt András [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I am happy to announce the shiny new release of Yet Another Map Application - Yama in short :-). [...] Looks cool. Have to try it out. Not sure if you are aware of this, but Yama is the Hindu god of death!

Re: Never getting GPS lock

2008-02-25 Thread Ben Wilson
na, i'm on a hill, it's pretty much wide open sky. Unobstructed to horizon for 180deg, other 180deg is about 60deg above horizon Lally Singh wrote: From: http://blogs.msdn.com/coding4fun/archive/2006/10/31/912287.aspx $GPGSV,2,1,08,01,40,083,46,02,17,308,41,12,07,344,39,14,22,228,45*75

Re: Never getting GPS lock

2008-02-25 Thread Sudharshan S
On 2/25/08, Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: na, i'm on a hill, it's pretty much wide open sky. Unobstructed to horizon for 180deg, other 180deg is about 60deg above horizon I had to wait around 2-3 hours for several days to get a fix on mine (My neo was placed near the window for a

Re: Never getting GPS lock

2008-02-25 Thread Ben Wilson
I seem to have got it working, although I’m not too sure how. It finally got a fix when I was inside playing around with different gllin options. I tried the cold option (cold start) and then “-sim“ (not using simulator) 5min after that it was getting fixes. Although I can't be sure the

Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hello, A number of times you have asked about pre-orders. Here is the official word from our VP of Marketing: Over the next couple of months you will see the following 3 announcements: 1. When the production hardware is solid and signed off, we will announce pricing and availability. That

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Ivo Anjo
3. When the phones reach the distribution centers in Europe and USA, we will open the web store and begin taking orders. Does this mean that it will be possible to purchase openmoko from inside the EU, so there are no random customs taxes? That would be great! Ivo Anjo

How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Heikki Sørum
Hi everyone! Today I got another proposal for useful applications that would make an open mobile outshine oldsch00l mobiles. The leader of the Norwegian EFF chapter posted som days in frustration a question whether there was any kind of blacklisting/spam filtering capabilities for SMS/Phonecalls

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Michael Shiloh
Ivo Anjo wrote: 3. When the phones reach the distribution centers in Europe and USA, we will open the web store and begin taking orders. Does this mean that it will be possible to purchase openmoko from inside the EU, so there are no random customs taxes? That would be great! Hi Ivo,

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Ivo Anjo
Hi Ivo, That is certainly our intention, which is why we have been trying to set up distributors in as many places as possible. The only one I know of so far is in Germany. Since that's in the EU, that should work for you, right? Yeah, there are no extra taxes on trades inside the EU,

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Heikki Sørum wrote: In my ideal world: Alice gets a OpenMoko, and then starts getting annoying calls from Peach Corporation that would like to sell here an Peach M-Phone. As Alice dislikes Peach Corporation, she tags any sms/mms and caller ID's with a Marketing Call tag. One of my favorite

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread David Pottage
On Monday 25 February 2008, Michael Shiloh wrote: Ivo Anjo wrote: 3. When the phones reach the distribution centers in Europe and USA, we will open the web store and begin taking orders. Does this mean that it will be possible to purchase openmoko from inside the EU, so there are no

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Heikki Sørum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone! Today I got another proposal for useful applications that would make an open mobile outshine oldsch00l mobiles. While I've never thought of taking it that far, this is one of the prime reasons I will be

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 25 February 2008 22:39:04 ian douglas wrote: Being able to do this within OpenMoko would be pretty slick too, though you won't really gain anything by marking SMS messages as spam -- you're still paying for the incoming message whether to tag it as spam or not, you'd only have the

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Heikki Sørum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Matilda in Canned Meat Marketing. Matilda has created an software system that automates calling and displays a unknown caller ID, then ... 3rd party ruggedized Moko Case!) he tags the calling ID with Deceptive

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Richard Bennett
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:48:08 +0100, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate such as Belgum, Europeans buying Freerunner phones could save around 10% compared with buying from a German web shop. Don't you mean

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Tilman Baumann
Heikki Sørum wrote: This could at least be mitigated by _not_ using different spamtags and by defaulting the Moko's behavior to only display warnings rather than silently ignore. In addition they contact list in Bob's and Alice's could work as a whitelist. Any other suggestions on how

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Joseph Booker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cell phones can be placed on the do-not-call list? It's already illegal for telemarketers to call you on one (since you would be paying for unsolicited advertising). Well if they are calling, you still need your own

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Ricky Fitz
On Mo, 2008-02-25 at 23:06 +0100, Marc Verwerft wrote: Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21 % as opposed to Germany's 16 % ... Just to kill your illusion - it is 19 % in germany since the beginning of 2007... ;-) Regards, Ricky. signature.asc Description:

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Tilman Baumann
Marc Verwerft wrote: Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21 % as opposed to Germany's 16 % ... 16% Not anymore... :( But as afar as i know, you can sell inside the EU to other EU countries and tax where they buyer lives. Don't ask me how, but i think there is

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Joseph Booker
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:11:14 -0700 Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: recorded message Your caller ID is blocked or turned off. If you are a telemarketer, please be warned that we are registered with the national Do-Not-Call list and do not wish to receive marketing messages of any kind.

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Tilman Baumann
ian douglas wrote: Tilman Baumann wrote: In my eyes, trust should be calculated automaticly, not by manually defining trust (like pgp). Using the system could improve it. Perhaps number of successful phone calls, and length of phone call to add a number of trust 'points' ... the more

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:14:11 +0100, Richard Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:48:08 +0100, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate such as Belgum, Europeans buying Freerunner phones could save

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Tony SR
Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 23:14:11 +0100, Richard Bennett richard.bennett at skynet.be wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:48:08 +0100, David Pottage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate such

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Tilman Baumann wrote: In my eyes, trust should be calculated automaticly, not by manually defining trust (like pgp). Using the system could improve it. Perhaps number of successful phone calls, and length of phone call to add a number of trust 'points' ... the more successful calls over some

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Tilman Baumann wrote: Yea. But this is limited to a simple question 'was this call spam?'. What i mean was that you should have 'the list[tm]' that is automatically the right thing for you. Yes, I agree, it should be personalized to the user/phone, and being prompted after a call to specify

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
David Pottage ha scritto: If FIC setup a web shop in a European country with a low sales tax rate such as Belgum, Europeans buying Freerunner phones could save around 10% compared with buying from a German web shop. In Italy it's 20%, not the best, but reading I discover that it isn't

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Duvelle Jones
I am a little curious to the channels that you do have access to. Being in canada, I am also curious as to if you plan to distribute the FreeRunner in Canada. On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 10:56 -0800, Michael Shiloh wrote: Hello, A number of times you have asked about pre-orders. Here is the official

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Antoine Reid
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Duvelle Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am a little curious to the channels that you do have access to. Being in canada, I am also curious as to if you plan to distribute the FreeRunner in Canada. +1 for Canada! We can order from the USA and the shipping

Re: Community update: Regarding Neo FreeRunner pre-orders

2008-02-25 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Monday 25 February 2008 23:48:14 Tilman Baumann wrote: Well, I live in Belgium and I can assure you that sales tax here is 21 % as opposed to Germany's 16 % ... 16% Not anymore... :( But as afar as i know, you can sell inside the EU to other EU countries and tax where they buyer lives.