Re: Data over normal GSM call

2008-04-12 Thread joerg
Am Fr 11. April 2008 schrieb Stefan Misch: Hi, I just talked about this issue with a colleague who uses an HTC PDA with windows mobile. For the data connection he uses a dial-up connection as a modem. He doesn't have a data plan but a flat fee for voice calls into land lines. He says

Re: next costumers location

2008-04-12 Thread Federico Lorenzi
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 3:10 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano ha scritto: What about a nice wiki page telling if you want to buy a neo where do you live and an email to contact? This could be useful to take the advantage to buy 10 neo at a time

Re: Smart LCD birght/dim...

2008-04-12 Thread Ortwin Regel
Exactly my thoughts: This sounds way too complicated to actually be useful. I'd rather adjust my brightness manually. On 4/12/08, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since Freerunner won't have an hardware

Re: Data over normal GSM call

2008-04-12 Thread thomasg
That's not all, there are even more factors: Mic - A/D converter - Codec (depends on net and quality: up to 5 different codecs possible) - Radio - Air-Interface - Radio -Codec - Voice Quality Enhancer (VQE - who knows what this will do with your data, maybe just dropping it at all) - and the same

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-12 Thread Shawn
Thanks Steve for the update. I have my money all saved up and ready! . . .Shawn - Original Message From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 10:50:40 AM Subject: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

ssh over bluetooth

2008-04-12 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
Hi, from what I know everyone is talking about using the neo with the usb but noone has told anything regarding an ssh session (or something similar) over bluetooth. So is it possible to use the neo like that? Bluetooth usually provide a serial port emulation (rfcom) if it's like that we can

Re: Smart LCD birght/dim...

2008-04-12 Thread Matt Manjos
I had a Compaq iPaq that did this via a little photodiode and it was implemented well, but there are some times when you want a brighter screen in the dark / darker screen in the daytime, so you're still digging through menus. On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 6:52 AM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-12 Thread ramsesoriginal
Thats great news! Just a quick question: will it be possible to buy the lunchbox as an own product? On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Steve for the update. I have my money all saved up and ready! . . .Shawn - Original Message From: steve

Re: ssh over bluetooth

2008-04-12 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
There is nothing special with ssh over Bluetooth. In fact it is ssh over TCP over IP over PPP (or similar) over Bluetooth RFCOMM. Please refer for configuration details to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Bluetooth_Support#Networking As soon as you have IP over Bluetooth, you can use

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-12 Thread François TOURDE
Le 13980ième jour après Epoch, Joe Pfeiffer écrivait: Tim Shannon writes: Sounds like a good idea, except for people who carry their phone in a bag, but definitely useful as an option nonetheless. Sure -- I was careful to say *my* use! Yes, and my usage too... :) Good idea ! But what about a

Quikwriting

2008-04-12 Thread Ortwin Regel
Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small touchscreen like the Neo's that I have come across. http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demos/quikwriting.html There have been positive comments towards it on the list before. Does anyone have the time, motivation and ability to implement

Re: accelerometer thought

2008-04-12 Thread Ben Burdette
Yes, and my usage too... :) Good idea ! But what about a not moving for a while switch? In my pocket, my bag, or other moving places, it will ring, and if it is staying on a desktop, or near my bed, it will use vibrator... But what happens if I try to locate it on my house, expecting it will

Re: Smart LCD birght/dim...

2008-04-12 Thread Nick Guenther
In particular, the wifi/gprs connection is going to suck a lot more power than the dimming, and weather sites are never accurate to the minute anyway (which *is* what you really need for this to be any better than just having a readily accessible brightness slider). On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 6:52

Re: Listening to music/podcasts

2008-04-12 Thread joerg
Am Fr 11. April 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: On 4/11/08, Jens Fursund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Freerunners! I was wondering if anyone know if it is possible to answer a call from a headset while listening to music/podcasts. As in the music/podcast stops and the call

Re: Smart LCD birght/dim...

2008-04-12 Thread joerg
Am Sa 12. April 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Since Freerunner won't have an hardware light sensor to set its LCD brightness, I got some ideas about smartly changing the luminance of the GTA02 screen to save its battery (still with an unknown life time :/). Actually it's not very

Re: Quikwriting

2008-04-12 Thread Ivo Anjo
Just tried it, and it's very easy to pick up, and it shouldn't be hard to implement. I suggest trying the quickwriting 2.1 demo. Ivo On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small touchscreen like the

Re: Quikwriting

2008-04-12 Thread ramsesoriginal
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small touchscreen like the Neo's that I have come across. http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demos/quikwriting.html There have been positive comments towards it on the

Wish list for future Freerunner

2008-04-12 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
Next significant iteration of Freerunner should include light sensor. My understanding is that's one part of iPhone secret sauce for intelligently dimming LCD while phone is held up to user's ear. related comment yes there are far more important features/changes. but this tiny (low COGS, high

Re: ssh over bluetooth

2008-04-12 Thread Kristian 'kriss' Mueller
Hey Pietro Am Samstag, den 12.04.2008, 14:25 +0200 schrieb Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano: [..] ssh session (or something similar) over bluetooth. So is it possible to use the neo like that? Yes, that's doable. You can use Personal Area Networking (PAN) with the pand app in bluez. If you like you

Re: Quikwriting

2008-04-12 Thread Alexander Frøyseth
I agree, add it :D That was genius. ramsesoriginal skrev: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small touchscreen like the Neo's that I have come across.

Re: linux-openmoko build error

2008-04-12 Thread M Nader
I meant 4194. It is already fixed now. On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/10/08, M Nader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://downloads.openmoko.org/sources/git_git.openmoko.org.git.kernel.git_4194.tar.gz It seems that 4914 (from

Re: Wish list for future Freerunner

2008-04-12 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Saturday 12 April 2008 18:46:16 Ron K. Jeffries wrote: Next significant iteration of Freerunner should include light sensor. Actually I have yet to see a device where a light sensor does not get in the way and eventually annoying a lot. This seems very hard to get right (both on the older

Re: Quikwriting

2008-04-12 Thread christooss
Nice Idea. I havent seen this anywhere. This would look really nice implemented in OpenMoko Ortwin Regel wrote: Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small touchscreen like the Neo's that I have come across. http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demos/quikwriting.html There have been

warranty

2008-04-12 Thread Ajit Natarajan
Hi Steve, If a group joins together to purchase the 10-pack, how will the warranty work? I presume that each unit is individually warranted. I'm sure that warranty service will require a purchase receipt or some other proof of purchase. What receipt would we use? If we have to register,

Re: warranty

2008-04-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Ajit Natarajan wrote: Hi Steve, If a group joins together to purchase the 10-pack, how will the warranty work? I presume that each unit is individually warranted. I'm sure that warranty service will require a purchase receipt or some other proof of purchase. What receipt would we use? If

LCD protector

2008-04-12 Thread Ajit Natarajan
Hello, A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector. It is a sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen. When affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation. However, it resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be wiped off. Is

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-12 Thread Michele Renda
Hi Steve Thank you for the update. I think you (you all from openmoko) worked very well, and I am happy to know these update. According me was a good idea to remove some accessories to cut off the price: a lot of person, can not to have too much money to buy for something that still they

Re: LCD protector

2008-04-12 Thread Nick Guenther
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ajit Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector. It is a sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen. When affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation.

Re: LCD protector

2008-04-12 Thread clare
My Neo1973 had a protector sheet on it when it arrived back in July. It had a small tab in one corner to pull it off with which I cut back a bit. It is pulled away very slightly at one edge, and has tiny imperfections so I am sure it is still there. It is invisible in use. At one time you had

Re: FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update

2008-04-12 Thread Kyle Bassett
More thanks Steve! I'm glad you guys slimmed down the original packaging, as anything above ~400 becomes very prohibitive (as a work in progress platform) for many people. Keep up the great work and thanks for the frequent updates! -Kyle * proud GTA01 hacker, GTA02 stalker ;-) * On Sat, Apr

Re: Quikwriting

2008-04-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
ramsesoriginal ha scritto: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small touchscreen like the Neo's that I have come across. http://mrl.nyu.edu/~perlin/demos/quikwriting.html There have been positive

Re: LCD protector

2008-04-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Ajit Natarajan wrote: A friend of mine who owns an iPhone purchased an LCD protector. It is a sheet of clear material cut to the dimensions of the LCD screen. When affixed to the screen, it doesn't affect touch screen operation. However, it resists scratching and fingerprints can simply be

Re: next costumers location

2008-04-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Federico Lorenzi wrote: I agree, btw I think that it will be cheaper also if on a city we can't group 10 people, simply we'll order on the most requested city, and from there we'll ship to other buyers... Standard shipping in Italy should be just 8€ more: that's definitely lower than 30$ :P...

Re: Quikwriting

2008-04-12 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: ramsesoriginal ha scritto: On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quikwriting is the best input method for finger input on a small touchscreen like the Neo's that I have come across.

Re: Quikwriting

2008-04-12 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Marco Trevisan (Treviño) writes: Mhmhmh I've tried the two demos (with mouse, of course), but I've some problems in writing on it... Expecially some lateral chars aren't writtable to me... To write a c, for example, I've to make many tries, and I guess they should be really more using a