Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 21.07.2009 um 22:52 schrieb steven mosher: Glad you noticed that Werner. When we went over the keyboard vi was on my mind. So next year on April 1st the company will be relaunched as vi- hardware :) Some corollary: vi = vi-ntage Real programmers do everything in vi (e.g.

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 17.07.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: I can add three special use cases from customers and friends: a) one Freerunner is used as the on-board computer of a student- built racing car (Formula Student) b) two Freerunners have been used in the German Historic Museum in

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-22 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 08:52:01 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Here is a link to the rocket project: http://www.ssc.se/?id=14315 (english) http://www.dlr.de/irs/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-5038/8410_read-14463/ (german) and a link to the (german) forum where you can see the photos of the

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 08:47:47AM -0700, steven mosher wrote: A while back Wolfgang mentioned that he and I were starting a new venture.Drop by and say hello. http://www.qi-hardware.com/ Heh, it seems like I'm not in your target sets, but good luck in this venture! :) Rui --

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-22 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/7/22 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: Am 17.07.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: I can add three special use cases from customers and friends: a) one Freerunner is used as the on-board computer of a student- built racing car (Formula Student) b) two

Re: touchpad on OM

2009-07-22 Thread roby
i find this a very good idea, without the right click there are tons of applications which just cannot be used! On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fmwrote: Hi, I'm not sure if anyone has ever tried this. I thought it would be handy to have a mouse pointer on

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 22.07.2009 um 09:46 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez: 2009/7/22 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: Am 17.07.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: I can add three special use cases from customers and friends: a) one Freerunner is used as the on-board computer of a

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-22 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/7/22 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: Am 22.07.2009 um 09:46 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez: 2009/7/22 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org: Am 17.07.2009 um 09:08 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller: I can add three special use cases from customers and friends:

Re: Known to work bluetooth headset

2009-07-22 Thread Evgeniy Ginzburg
Laszlo KREKACS пишет: Hi! I was adding the persons who had already tried their bluetooth headset with intone, and reported to work. Please if you have a working bluetooth headset add yours to the list. I would also like to compare their price and music quality, but I dont know how to do

Re: literki update

2009-07-22 Thread Patryk Benderz
Did you really like the vibration? Myself I was a annoyed by it. I liked it. In fact i still do, despite it is missing :) -- Kind Regards Patryk Benderz IT Specialist Linux Registered User #377521 +48 22 538 6292 ERSTE Securities Polska S.A. ul. Królewska 16 Warszawa 00-103 KRS 065121

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-22 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
I think the best is to link to the original server (it has enough bandwidth). Is that the original server? http://www.goldelico.com/images/dlr/ Yes. I search in the links of the rockect project on DLR and I don't find them, only the launching one They are not directly hosted at DLR. A

Re: gsm restart

2009-07-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 14:51:43 Petr Vanek wrote: i have been stress testing the fso-abyss now (uploading/downloading while on a train ride (unstable coverage) and so far so good, really. Great, glad to hear it's been stable for you. It does tale some load though: PID USER PR NI

Re: OpenMoko on HTC-Dream (Can anyone help?)

2009-07-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 16:00:12 David Lanzendörfer wrote: Try #htc-linux on freenode, the experts are there. Btw., haven't seen you responding to my question about audio. Do you have alsa yet? Cheers, :M: Not tried to get it running yet. I see, thanks. I have asked because

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Tuesday 21 July 2009 17:24:56 Shaz wrote: We (academic RnD) need a community effort and an effort that can compete with iPhone and Windows mobiles. OHA and LIMO kind of efforts but that are not as free as freedom and sort of not really open :) Can't this community aim at working at that

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Wednesday 22 July 2009 09:03:03 David Garabana Barro wrote: On Wednesday 22 July 2009 08:52:01 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Here is a link to the rocket project: http://www.ssc.se/?id=14315 (english) http://www.dlr.de/irs/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-5038/8410_read-14463/ (german)

Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-22 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/7/22 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de: On Wednesday 22 July 2009 09:03:03 David Garabana Barro wrote: On Wednesday 22 July 2009 08:52:01 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Here is a link to the rocket project: http://www.ssc.se/?id=14315 (english)

Re: Known to work bluetooth headset

2009-07-22 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
No comments. Just edited table to make it more clear. Thank you! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-22 Thread steven mosher
Yes, that would be a great april fools joke. Vintage is very trendy http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10021523-1.html hehe Werner, small keyboards, vi. It's an inside joke. Or rather a hat tip to a good man, great programmer, and founder of OM. On that note, it's not kosher to use

Re: New Open Hardware company

2009-07-22 Thread steven mosher
Thanks for your kind words. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.orgwrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 08:47:47AM -0700, steven mosher wrote: A while back Wolfgang mentioned that he and I were starting a new venture.Drop by and say hello.

RE: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-22 Thread c_c
Hi, Staley, Daniel L wrote: AlrightI figured out how to get intone to work with my bluetooth headset! I have to start a song, pause it and then start it again...but thats alright. Great - nice to know the scancodes are the same :-) Staley, Daniel L wrote: All my keys worked

Re: touchpad on OM

2009-07-22 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/21 Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz This is not the problem. If you want to simulate a drag, you need to have the pointer where the drag takes place. But at the same time you're touching the touchscreen and thus moving the pointer under your finger. With clicking this is not a problem,

Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
Good morning Universe after the eclipse... Short background: I finally flashed my GSM with (something)11 and installed Parolli on my phone. Didn't like it (or couldn't figure it out) and re-flashed it with SHR. WY easier to deal with than the QT thing it came with, and better conversation

Re: Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/22 li...@kitepilot.com Now the question: I want to create a user to run the browser with (easy), and then configure the icon to run the browser using that user (no clue) Anyone? Thanks! :) ET Look for a thread SHR annoyances and find my post.

Re: Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
su $username -c /program/binary This one I know. The *REAL* trick (my question) is which /program/binary and which file holds the icon information in the GUI so I can modify it. Thanks! :) ET Marcel writes: Am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2009 13:53:34 schrieb li...@kitepilot.com: Now the

Re: Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
look at /usr/applications I guess you are using minimo, right? then it sould be somthing like minimo.desktop, the line you have to change is Execute=... Regards 2009/7/22 li...@kitepilot.com: su $username -c /program/binary This one I know. The *REAL* trick (my question) is which

Re: Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/22 li...@kitepilot.com su $username -c /program/binary This one I know. The *REAL* trick (my question) is which /program/binary and which file holds the icon information in the GUI so I can modify it. Thanks! :) ET desktop files are in /usr/share/applications.

Re: Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread roby
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Marcel tan...@googlemail.com wrote: su $username -c /program/binary does the job, basically. Just that su requires you to enter a password on the command line. I don't know about another way though... if you are root you don't need the password to su as a

This stupid phone is unbelievable COOL!!!! 8)

2009-07-22 Thread lists
So I do: kitepi...@beechjet:~$ ssh -fCX r...@192.168.0.202 /usr/bin/midori And I have the browser running in my desktop monitor. Only *TRUE* geeks can appreciate that! ;-) ET PS: Never mind the potential to control the device and squeeze functionality. I certainly, starting difficulties

Re: This stupid phone is unbelievable COOL!!!! 8)

2009-07-22 Thread Davide Scaini
...something gives me the impression that you are new to this list, please tag the subject of your posts... for example: [shr-u] questions or [om2008] tricks or [noise] today i had a nightmare welcome d On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:35 PM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote: So I do:

(FIXED) Re: Run browser as root. Do I want to do *THAT* ? :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
I did: adduser kitepilot sed -e 's/Exec=midori %u/Exec=su kitepilot -c midori %u/g' \ /usr/share/applications/midori.desktop \ /usr/share/applications/kmidori.desktop mv /usr/share/applications/midori.desktop /root :) How could I do anything before without the Internet...

Re: ANN: freesmartphone.org MS 5.5

2009-07-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag, den 19.07.2009, 23:13 +0500 schrieb Sudharshan S: On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauermic...@vanille-media.de wrote: The Freesmartphone.org team is proud to release milestone 5.5 codenamed 'In Transit...'. Coolness, Its awesome to see the vala

Re: fixing bug #1024 successful reports?

2009-07-22 Thread Daniel Willmann
Hi, On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:48:25 +0400 ivvmm unachieva...@gmail.com wrote: Hello list, were there any successful fixes since posting http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html Is this the final solution? Please post here your reports. Since about 5 days I'm using

pythm - support for mp4 files?

2009-07-22 Thread Previdi Roberto
hello, i tried to use pythm to play an mp4 video. mplayer can play it, but pythm don't show it in his browser. is it possible to setup which extensions to list in the browser? -- roby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: pythm - support for mp4 files?

2009-07-22 Thread PaulTT
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Previdi Robertoprevidi.robe...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i tried to use pythm to play an mp4 video. mplayer can play it, but pythm don't show it in his browser. is it possible to setup which extensions to list in the browser? edit file .pythm/python.conf and add

Re: This stupid phone is unbelievable COOL!!!! 8)

2009-07-22 Thread Yorick Moko
you can also run x11vnc On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: ...something gives me the impression that you are new to this list, please tag the subject of your posts... for example: [shr-u] questions or [om2008] tricks or [noise] today i had a nightmare

Re: This stupid phone is unbelievable COOL!!!! 8)

2009-07-22 Thread D. Gassen
And then there is synergy. It's really cool to move the mouse pointer from my laptop over to the Freerunner and then control the Freerunner with both the mouse and the keyboard from my laptop. Dirk On 22.07.2009, at 14:27, Yorick Moko wrote: you can also run x11vnc On Wed, Jul 22, 2009

keeping om2009 awake

2009-07-22 Thread pike
Hi does anyone know how to keep the om2009 awake ? the related settings in paroli and illume both dont seem to do much on my moko. There must be a Greater Force falling asleep, too. I'm sure its simple and I just missed the writing on some wall. But I cant find it. It annoys me so much that i'm

Re: keeping om2009 awake

2009-07-22 Thread jeremy jozwik
etc/frameworkd.conf suspend and idle timoutes On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:31 PM, pikepike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi does anyone know how to keep the om2009 awake ? the related settings in paroli and illume both dont seem to do much on my moko. There must be a Greater Force falling asleep,

om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread pike
Hi and another one - I have scripts to connect to my wifi, several ways, it all works, but only after I activated the wifi driver. The only way I know how to do that is through Paroli settings. Is there a way to do it from the command line ? thanks, *-pike

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:35:25PM +0200, pike wrote: and another one - I have scripts to connect to my wifi, several ways, it all works, but only after I activated the wifi driver. The only way I know how to do that is through Paroli settings. Is there a way to do it from the command line

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@ansol.org wrote: One thing you must do, is ifdown usb0 in the command line. Don't forget to do ifup usb0 if you want usb connectivity again :) Rui are there any other tips for wifi? ive tried monfi and saskia and still have yet to

Re: keeping om2009 awake

2009-07-22 Thread Al Johnson
You can also request the CPU and/or Display resources, or change their policy from auto to enabled. Apps can do this themselves, or use the fsoraw wrapper program when starting the app if it doesn't support it natively. This will request the resource at app start, and release it at exit. On

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread pike
Hi One thing you must do, is ifdown usb0 in the command line. Or route del default gw 192.168.0.202. But I've removed the default usb route from /etc/networking/. I *never* connect outwards through usb. I use a mac. So I dont have to do that anymore. What I tried to say is, its all working

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:03 PM, pikepike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: Hi [...] I have to 'activate' the wifi driver in paroli first. Before that, eth0 is just completely non-existant as a device; ifup,ifdown,iwconfig and friends will just not see it. eth0 - no such device. That's a feature, not

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread pike
Hi are there any other tips for wifi? ive tried monfi and saskia and still have yet to get a connection at work or home. so besides this usb0 thing and turning on the wifi radio what other steps are there? none of the gui's ever got me a connection. it's working fine now after doing it

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread pike
Hi I have to 'activate' the wifi driver in paroli first. That's a feature, not a bug ;) yep So the question is, what does activate mean in paroli ? what does it do ? It talks to FSO to request WiFi activation, FSO will turn on the WiFi. If your WiFi manager requests the WiFi resource

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM, pikepike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: none of the gui's ever got me a connection. it's working fine now after doing it manually a 1000 times and finally wrapping that up in a shell script today. $2c, *-pike thanks, but woish! making this:

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:22 PM, pikepike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: [...] It talks to FSO to request WiFi activation, FSO will turn on the WiFi. If your WiFi manager requests the WiFi resource directly to FSO you do not need to activate the WiFi in paroli. OK. I dont really understand that last

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:28 PM, jeremy jozwikjerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 2:18 PM, pikepike-openm...@kw.nl wrote: none of the gui's ever got me a connection. it's working fine now after doing it manually a 1000 times and finally wrapping that up in a shell script

Re: keeping om2009 awake

2009-07-22 Thread pike
Hi etc/frameworkd.conf suspend and idle timoutes this one ? [odeviced.idlenotifier] suspend = -1 ignoreinput = 2,3 looks good ? is there any documentation on this - i can only find other peoples examples ? You can also request the CPU and/or Display resources, or change their policy

My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
Help... After I finally got my Freerunner sort-of working, I have missed a few calls because the screen ignores my attempts to get a call. Or a text message... In the worst instance, there was just a tiny lit up line on the screen and I had to pull the battery. The device seems to be

Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread Marcel
Am Donnerstag, 23. Juli 2009 00:57:32 schrieb li...@kitepilot.com: Help... After I finally got my Freerunner sort-of working, I have missed a few calls because the screen ignores my attempts to get a call. Or a text message... In the worst instance, there was just a tiny lit up line on the

Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:57 PM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote: Help... After I finally got my Freerunner sort-of working, I have missed a few calls because the screen ignores my attempts to get a call. Or a text message... In the worst instance, there was just a tiny lit up line on the screen

Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread Dan Staley
I use a full body invisible shield on mine and it works great! See: http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/openmoko-neo-freerunner-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php You can just get a screen protector from them as well if you want. Haven't had any of the problems you are describing

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-22 Thread pike
Hi Is there a way to request WiFi activation from FSO straight from the command line ? Yes, if you search the archive you'll find some mdbus or dbus-send examples, or as saied you may use fsoraw. Sorry, I found none. I'm sure I just dont really know what I'm looking for. Anyway, mdbus

[SHR] Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
Man, ignorance hurts... I have the SHR I downloaded from the wiki, supposedly the latest one. Thanks for the help! ET li...@kitepilot.com writes: Help... After I finally got my Freerunner sort-of working, I have missed a few calls because the screen ignores my attempts to get a

Re: [SHR] Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote: Man, ignorance hurts... I have the SHR I downloaded from the wiki, supposedly the latest one. Thanks for the help! ET is it suspending or crashing. do you have the battery fully charged? dont worry. the next few weeks you will begin

Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
is it suspending or crashing. Don't know... Sometimes I think either or both... do you have the battery fully charged? I drains *VERY* fast... :( ET jeremy jozwik writes: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote: Man, ignorance hurts... I have the SHR I downloaded

Re: subfolders and icon sorting in illume

2009-07-22 Thread Petr Vanek
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:02:25 +0200 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com (SK) wrote: On 7/21/09, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: Looks like someone just did right mouse click on icon in Illume launcher ;) well, i did many times before but no menu, or am i wrong? Petr You're wrong.

Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:24 PM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote: Don't know... Sometimes I think either or both... what are you doing when it happens? I drains *VERY* fast... :( ET screen brightness, idle timeouts, suspend and turning off radios and modems that you are not using helps with

Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-22 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 22:50, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:46 PM, The Digital Pioneerdigitalpion...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is this is caused by a blip in the signal, which is a part of bluetooth life, and usually mplayer handles it by

Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread lists
what are you doing when it happens? Nothing... The telephone rings and it is impossible to pick up the call or do anything afterwards. Or I just pick it up and is totally unresponsive. Oblivious to CPR... ET jeremy jozwik writes: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:24 PM, li...@kitepilot.com

Re: My phone hangs. Like the best of them... :(

2009-07-22 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 2:45 AM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote: what are you doing when it happens? Nothing... The telephone rings and it is impossible to pick up the call or do anything afterwards. Or I just pick it up and is totally unresponsive. Oblivious to CPR... ET I suggest you to flash

RFC: Open Source Hardware - Disclosure Requisites

2009-07-22 Thread Werner Almesberger
Sorry for the cross-post. I've prepared a whitepaper that explains the documentation requirement of Open Source Hardware to component vendors. If you're interested in this topic, please help to review it. The thread about it is on the gta02-core list:

RE: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-22 Thread c_c
Hi, Intone now rejects a second keypress if it happens within 150ms of the first one and prints that out too - just so it's clear. Staley, Daniel L wrote: It looks to me like the error occurs after I used the previous key, and then tried the play/pause key. When that happened intone gui

Intone binary (to test bluetooth headset issues)

2009-07-22 Thread c_c
Hi, I thought it would be best if I could keep all the bluetooth headset and control keys (AVRCP) issues in one thread for future reference. I'm posting a binary that :- 1. rejects a second play/pause press (happens on at least one headset automatically) if it happens with 150ms of the first

Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-22 Thread jeremy jozwik
is anyone else getting left side favored playback with headphone-less playback? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community