Re: OM future

2010-02-24 Thread Radek Polak
On Tuesday 23 February 2010 10:05:31 Mike Crash wrote: We can create a phone as a next step in the future, but not now. This is a very bad idea. I cant agree. I have N770 which is great PDA. If Neo was just PDA i would never bought it. Neo is very nice piece of hardware. But the hardware

Re: SHR Stable Party

2010-02-24 Thread rakshat hooja
I have near zero graphic skills but I have modified a place holder logo for the SHR Party page http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:SHR-Party-Logo.png This is only there till someone can provide a better logo. Rakshat On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:56 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: OM future

2010-02-24 Thread Gerald A
Heya, On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:58 AM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Tuesday 23 February 2010 10:05:31 Mike Crash wrote: We can create a phone as a next step in the future, but not now. This is a very bad idea. I cant agree. I have N770 which is great PDA. If Neo was just PDA

Re: Mcnavi maps and ipk

2010-02-24 Thread Davide Scaini
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: I plan to write script which will generate the maps and upload it to gps-routes.info for download. Also it would be nice to package the maps as deb and make a regular updates via apt-get. I'm only waiting for fixing the

Re: OM future

2010-02-24 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Does anybody out there know what the financial envelope for, say, a run of 100 Neos with the accumulated hardware improvements, g3, and double the memory would be? I am thinking a custom application here... I also suspect that a faster processor and support for higher capacity SD cards could be

Re: OM future

2010-02-24 Thread Gerald A
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Iain B. Findleton ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote: Does anybody out there know what the financial envelope for, say, a run of 100 Neos with the accumulated hardware improvements, g3, and double the memory would be? I am thinking a custom application here... I

Re: OM future

2010-02-24 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:14:39 -0500 Iain B. Findleton ifindle...@videotron.ca wrote: Does anybody out there know what the financial envelope for, say, a run of 100 Neos with the accumulated hardware improvements, g3, and double the memory would be? I am thinking a custom application here... if

Re: OM future

2010-02-24 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 23.02.2010 at 01:05:31 -0800, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: Actually, I don't know, why everybody needs a phone. I can answer that: I want a fully open phone that I can configure to meet *my* needs. If I am allowed to dream a bit, despite my OM not being in good working

Re: OM future

2010-02-24 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 23.02.2010 at 21:45:48 -0800, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: other devices and how many software there is for. There is a lot of software for Neo ported from desktop, but on Neo unusable. I *bet* that this is a side-effect of the Neo's initial (hw sw) problems, compounded

Re: [SHR-U] WiFi-related memory leak

2010-02-24 Thread Denis Shulyaka
2010/2/21 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Can you try the same test again without swap? Here it is. Without swap and midori this time: ftp://shulyaka.org.ru/pub/memlog2.tar.bz2 The phone survived for 2 hours this time. I guess it could live a little longer without

Re: [SHR-U] WiFi-related memory leak

2010-02-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Denis Shulyaka shuly...@gmail.com writes: Here it is. Without swap and midori this time: ftp://shulyaka.org.ru/pub/memlog2.tar.bz2 Hmm. The memory usage of frameworkd actually decreased during the test: $ grep frameworkd ps* ps.17:57:32:root 1219 46.6 16.4 32368 19876 ?Ss 17:31

gta02-core (was Re: OM future)

2010-02-24 Thread Rafael Ignacio Zurita
Hi, I think that gta02-core is the key (or part of). All of us have been talking about the problems with openmoko hardware for years. And because all of us have different ideas and feelings we use this list as our psychologist :-) But still if there are a lot of different ideas and feelings I

Re: RTC failure in January

2010-02-24 Thread Gilles Filippini
Hi, Sebastian Reichel a écrit , Le 23/02/2010 19:18: what happened with this patch? My FR ran out of power, which resulted in a reset RTC. Now I can't set it back to current time, because of hwclock's read. You can set it back this way: # hwclock --systohc -D --noadjfile --utc _g.

Re: [SHR-U] WiFi-related memory leak

2010-02-24 Thread Denis Shulyaka
2010/2/24 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Hmm. The memory usage of frameworkd actually decreased during the test: How can this happen? ;) Same for Xorg too: and hal: I have no idea why it decreased. I guess kernel unloads some parts of executable that are not executed ATM. (Why

Re: gta02-core (was Re: OM future)

2010-02-24 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:57:39 -0800 (PST) Rafael Ignacio Zurita rizur...@yahoo.com said: Hi, I think that gta02-core is the key (or part of). All of us have been talking about the problems with openmoko hardware for years. And because all of us have different ideas and feelings we use this

Re: Rutgers University writes malware for Freerunner

2010-02-24 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
Jakob jackram...@googlemail.com writes: It's not hard to run your browser on the neo as user. Though it should be made default. e.g. in SHR one could ask the user at first startup to create a user and then run the browser, piding and all those internet applications with the rights of this

Re: [SHR-U] WiFi-related memory leak

2010-02-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Denis Shulyaka shuly...@gmail.com writes: I have no idea why it decreased. I guess kernel unloads some parts of executable that are not executed ATM. Ah that is true, read-only mappings do not need to be kept in memory. BTW, what kind of WiFi authentication and encryption do you use? I use