Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. Even if | every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see anyone | using it. | Today bluetooth headsets are cheap and

Re: AW: multi-touch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Fabian Off: Hey! How does synaptics handle this? When I look at the output my touchpad does, I can see X Y Fingers Values... Maybe we could look into this code and see how they do detect the amount of fingers? Dunno whether they work nearly the same, but I

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Benedikt Schindler: Sven Klomp schrieb: 2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music. Sven And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 / 02 ??? It IS possible with the ACTUAL *2.5mm* headset on

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Rahul Joshi: And I thought I read somewhere in wiki that the touchscreen would be similar if not same to the ones having multi-touch sensing support (which can be programmed to support multi-touch at some point of time). With your statement I can't decide if I'm

Re: screen protector

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: the cheaper ones. This make me worry that they might not have a good conductivity, which is nessecary since the Freerunner has a resistive touch screen. The R-TS is BETWEEN two foils that touch each other when pressing on some point with

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Shawn: 1 more vote for 'B'. I'm curious, though, why the decision has to be made in such a rush for future editions of the product? . . .shawn because we're moving forward very fast ;-) You see it took long time for GTA02, we're trying to speed up, and product

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: Joerg Reisenweber wrote: B) classic 3.5mm headphones Walkman(R) connector, where you have to DIY an adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm headSET standards or adapters?) This one, but with a 4-pin (stereo

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Rahul Joshi: The vendor of the touch panel we are using said it might be possible. But it would be a considerable driver effort. I'd really like to see a pointer to this first hand info. This guy I*d like to invite on a couple a beers and have a chat - always thought

Re: gsmd question

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
hey guys, this was an issue 1988. Since then, AT command set is well understood, for Hayes modems and everything that came later on... Sorry it's late at night here, and I might be a little ungraceful... But REALLY *THATS* an issue??? c'mon let me write your specs ;-) maybe I'm totally OT, then

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Kim Alvefur: On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 09:16 -0400, Kevin Dean wrote: 3.5 mm. I hear mention of standard 2.5 mm and other than my 1973 and the Freerunner, I don't think I've ever seen a 2.5 mm used. Most wired headsets on phones I've purchased in the past each used

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
see URL in prev post. there are adapters 3.5male-2.5female /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
that's been my idea when I started. But obviously there's a demand for adapter-free 3.5 connectivity. So you probably have to use an adapter for headsets (with mic)[see other post]. No big thing though. Thanks for voting jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: gsmd question

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Bin Chen: On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bin Chen: I am a mobile phone developer and I am looking at the GSMd application on OpenMoko. Seems all the AT command are sent to UART without waiting the OK or ERROR

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the WiFi chip in | fact _can_ do AP mode, but that mode is not allowed in the open source | driver. | | its a firmware. the wifi module has its own

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Joerg, as it seems that my mail did not reach the community list (I am not a subscriber, just monitoring the archives) may I ask you directly the question regarding multi tutch :-) . See below: Hi all, if the geometric average point is

Re: multi-touch?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Bastian Muck: I have a little idea. Imagine, you put your finger somewhere on the right side of the screen. The average point is also somewhere at the right side. When you put another finger e.g. at the left side the average point jumps somewhere to the middle. This

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Alexey Feldgendler wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:59:10 +0200, Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're helpless unless Atheros decided to implement Master mode in their closed firmware. Unfortunately the power advantages of having the bulk

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Lasse Poulsen wrote: | Also it would be nice to see how long call time you have if you talk | continually (might i suggest an audio-book or to). If you don't i | properly will (haven't got the device yet!) |

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb ian douglas: I think that knowing a best case scenario (where you stay in the same location), you get about 6 hours of talk time, is still helpful. Cell phone manufacturers typically report a best case scenario when reporting talk time and standby time, with the

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb AVee: This test might not even be 'best case'. A better test would be having the Neo really close to the cell tower for optimal conditions. I guess the difference between testing far away from the cell tower and testing close to the tower might be pretty big.

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): ian douglas wrote: I think that knowing a best case scenario (where you stay in the same location), you get about 6 hours of talk time, is still helpful. Cell phone manufacturers typically report a best case scenario when reporting

Re: GTA01 battery charge circuit: ID pin?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 24. Mai 2008 schrieb Major A: Hi, I have a GTA01 and want to use it even when I don't carry a computer with me. I read that the battery charge circuit of the GTA02 will switch to high current if a 48k resistor is present between the mini-USB ID pin and ground. Does this also apply

Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 26. Mai 2008 schrieb Steffen Winkler: stupid question: but for what stands ASU? Abgas Sonder Untersuchung - hey you're no German guy?! ;-) maybe we should find a better name - yea it's hard with all these Spanish and German ambiguities. Let's wait and see what's next... LOL. Siemens

Re: Available Encryption algorithms

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 27. Mai 2008 schrieb David Pottage: If there is a difference between what the spec sheet for the GSM modem supports and what the AT command says is supported, then my guess would be that the GSM modem is also considering what is permitted by the network SIM card. Alternatively there

Re: Car Mode Application...

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 27. Mai 2008 schrieb Staley, Daniel L: * If someone calls while the program is running, ideally I would like the program to pause all music etc and say Incoming call from Fred and display 2 large buttons Ignore and Accept. If accept is pressed, I want the phone to go into

Re: Car Mode Application...

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Staley, Daniel L: One question I still have though: Is it possible to catch the incoming call signal from the GSM modem before the dialer app gets it, and handle all the call stuff in my app? Will I need to rework all of the call taking code? Or is there an

Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: Joerg On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: i think it may still be up in the air Nope it's not, see Y-cable in wiki. Should work perfectly. You just have

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Jan Stöckel: hey given pro-linux.de (german news site)is right, MPX http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/ is now a part of Xorg, and I can remember that the display of the freerunner was ready for multituch, so coud it be possible that the freerunner/openmoko is

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb thomasg: The capacitive touchscreen of the Freerunner only detects a single point and FR has a resistive TS /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | | What we need is to enable to install these into the toolchain somehow, | | rather than make that a special do it at the factory operation | to get | | things into toolchain. | | | | Agreed, but till

Re: early experince Freerunners w/ ASU load, vs. thousnads of Freeruners

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): In this Linuxtag report [1] (google translated here [2]) there are not so good news about production :/ Can you share with us something more Steve? Bye [1] http://tinyurl.com/6rs6j2 [2] http://tinyurl.com/643y64 -- Treviño's

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
you are not supposed to correct each single keystroke - just like on T9. Simply type ahead and *in the end* select from list the word you tried to type, probably that's nearest to _all_ of your physical keystrokes PLUS some recent/most-used-factor. If I got that right, Raster? /j

Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: | Joerg | | On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: | i think it may still be up

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
hmmm you really have a talent to ask interesting questions dunno... yet /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: USB power direction in host mode (was: Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?))

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: | Joerg | | On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: it's possible we can do this - in svn there is even a full qwerty kbd layout i initially used - with ctrl, alt, etc. for terminal junkies, BUT for now correction is always-on. U made my day. :-) Just wondering how long it takes til there's a howto

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