Re: [Gta04-owner] [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-31 Thread Glenn
On 30/12/11 07.39, Alishams Hassam wrote: Hello All, Firstly note that I am not a marketing expert by any means. Me2 ;-) 1. Online and print magazines, news websites: When GTA02 was sold and someone needed an ARM testboard, I recommended GTA02 and http://www.embeddedartists.com/ boards

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-31 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi, Am 30.12.2011 um 23:14 schrieb Gerald A: For me, I don't have time right now to assemble a Freerunner and a GTA04 to get a working phone with possibilities. I want the completed package, then end result. The neo was shipped with the slogan This takes approx. 15 minutes. Rarely more.

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-31 Thread Boudewijn
On Saturday 31 December 2011 13:08:47 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Am 30.12.2011 um 23:14 schrieb Gerald A: For me, I don't have time right now to assemble a Freerunner and a GTA04 to get a working phone with possibilities. I want the completed package, then end result. The neo was

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Great Thanks! Although i have some professional background in product management/marketing I simply have no time left to care for marketing... And marketing communication without a product is pointless. So I did devote my time mostly on getting the product into our hands. So if we find

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 29 December 2011 22:39:01 Alishams Hassam wrote: Things to mention: 1. The GTA04 *requires* an FR / NEO1974. This should serve as a request to get people who have these collecting dust, selling them online. Maybe this should be made more explicit? This isn't strictly true. The

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Fernando
Hi, I have a GTA02 which I am using only for NeronGPS. I need a mobile for a few calls and SMS a month. Some months ago it did not receive an SMS and I have no idea why. I bought a 20€ Samsung phone, put the chip in, and got the SMS. So, why should I be excited to buy a GTA04 for the price tag

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, December 30, 2011 a las 01:43:12PM +, Fernando escribió: BTW, I don't think it makes much sense to invest in marketing without a full product. It seems a too expensive proposition for a small market of GTA02 and without high confidence of still getting a reliable phone. I

Re: [Gta04-owner] [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Am 30.12.2011 um 10:27 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org: Talking about how the wifi firmware has been isolated so it cannot interfere with the O/S is a great example. If you are refering to how it was made impossible to replace the non-free firmware by a free one, then I wouldn't advertise

Re: Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Fernando
On Dec 30, 2011 13:53 Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: El día Friday, December 30, 2011 a las 01:43:12PM +, Fernando escribió: BTW, I don't think it makes much sense to invest in marketing without a full product. It seems a too expensive proposition for a small market of

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Martix
+1 We need to offer complete working smartphone before doing massive marketing to public. #1 mistake of Openmoko Inc. was unstable software stack, switching toolkits (GTK+, Qt, EFL) and hardware bugs. I think, we should provide stable and tested development platform (stable distribution, SDK

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 30.12.2011 um 14:53 schrieb Matthias Apitz: El día Friday, December 30, 2011 a las 01:43:12PM +, Fernando escribió: BTW, I don't think it makes much sense to invest in marketing without a full product. It seems a too expensive proposition for a small market of GTA02 and without high

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread urodelo
Marketing strategies can also be planned for two different targets: 1st: developers, skilled users, hackers, geeks, etc, etc. In this phase marketing is mean to publish, inform and possible sale the product to those interested in the above activities 2nd: once the product will be stable

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread rixed
1. The GTA04 *requires* an FR / NEO1974. This should serve as a request to get people who have these collecting dust, selling them online. Maybe this should be made more explicit? This isn't strictly true. The FR/Neo1974 is certainly the easiest way to get screen, case, antennae,

Re: [Gta04-owner] [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread rixed
-[ Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 02:56:50PM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller ] Am 30.12.2011 um 10:27 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org: Talking about how the wifi firmware has been isolated so it cannot interfere with the O/S is a great example. If you are refering to how it was made

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Gerald A
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: The other strategy is the one taken by Apple. They have a very low marketing budget compared to other companies. And the media are still happy to report every small move at no cost... ... which is because

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Ed Kapitein
On 12/30/2011 06:59 PM, Gerald A wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com mailto:h...@goldelico.com wrote: The other strategy is the one taken by Apple. They have a very low marketing budget compared to other companies. And the media are

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Gerald, Ed (I try to merge thoughts a little...) Am 30.12.2011 um 19:22 schrieb Ed Kapitein: On 12/30/2011 06:59 PM, Gerald A wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: The other strategy is the one taken by Apple. They have a very

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Brian
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 19:22:55 +0100 Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org wrote: On 12/30/2011 06:59 PM, Gerald A wrote: On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com mailto:h...@goldelico.com wrote: The other strategy is the one taken by Apple. They have

Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-30 Thread Gerald A
Hi Nikolaus, On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Am 30.12.2011 um 19:22 schrieb Ed Kapitein: On 12/30/2011 06:59 PM, Gerald A wrote: What I think is lost in all of this is the question: Who is the intended customer? Currently: those who own

[Marketing] Ideas / Plan

2011-12-29 Thread Alishams Hassam
Hello All, Firstly note that I am not a marketing expert by any means. I only wish to throw ideas out there and implement what I have time for. If there are any marketing experts on the list (heck, if you're even just interested), please speak up! The only experience you really need is the