Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-02-12 Thread Helge Hafting
Margo wrote: The Officer S101 seems interesting: http://www.road.de/en/handypcs/officer.html http://blog.hackable1.org/2009/08/running-hackable1-on-the-road-officer-s101.html Wow. At least a _useable_ hw keyboard. That is, one that has a couple of keys to the right of 'p' and 'l'. Which is

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-02-10 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On 2/11/10, Joshua Judson Rosen roz...@geekspace.com wrote: GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org writes: On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 01:12 +, William Kenworthy wrote: Flow - good but pricy, and unless I am looking at the design wrong, there is only one adapter/interface socket so you can have a

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-10 Thread Lowell Higley
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Marc-Olivier Barre ma...@marcochapeau.orgwrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:58:38 +0100, Lowell Higley higle...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:12 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.auwrote: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality)

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-09 Thread Noel
On 1/8/10, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: So Im back to my waiting position. In a year or so, my decision will be crystal-clear;-) Just don't hold your breath :) In one year you will have more devices to choose from. Do you remember when there was only iPhone and Neo? :)

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-09 Thread Lowell Higley
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:12 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.auwrote: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... Sorry to join the conversation so late but this is my favorite so far as a

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-09 Thread Marc-Olivier Barre
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:58:38 +0100, Lowell Higley higle...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:12 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.auwrote: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ...

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-09 Thread John Locke
Hi, Haven't been reading the list much in a long time... I have a Neo, which I never could use as a day-to-day phone, due to battery life. Now I've got an N900, just wanted to comment on this: From: Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com I also doubt if it runs smoothly on a weaker

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-08 Thread Neil Jerram
2010/1/8 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: What I fear about N900 is that it always stays as one single high-end model to nokia. There were always single model in the past: n700, n800, n810 Huh? That looks like 3 models to me. And the N900 makes 4. (Note that n700 should be

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-08 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Hi, On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 10:10:49AM +, Neil Jerram wrote: Doesn't the N900 use the standard Debian archive? (I only know that part of the community has pushed for that for a long time...) I don't know about that. If it does, the question becomes whether the e libraries are in Debian.

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-08 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Friday 08 January 2010 11:10:49 Neil Jerram wrote: 2010/1/8 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com: What I fear about N900 is that it always stays as one single high-end model to nokia. There were always single model in the past: n700, n800, n810 Huh? That looks like 3 models

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-08 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: From the same point of view, I expect that further expansion of this platform will depend massively on whether N900 is successful. Firstly, whether it sells in large numbers; secondly, whether Nokia estimate that

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-08 Thread Nicola Mfb
[...] I also doubt if it runs smoothly on a weaker device (processor-wise). Today on the train I saw a guy with nokia N900. He was reading some texts on it. Oh dear, the scrolling was awesomely laggish. As an openmoko user I know a bit about laggish scrolling;-) It is really sad such a highend

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/7 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: The N900 runs a debian like linux with an X11 server. I'm pretty sure it would be possible to put FSO on it. It is pretty much open. http://maemo.org

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 17:28 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: What do you think which mobile phone has the most likeliness to RE or somehow put fso on it? - Google Nexus http://www.google.com/phone/ Unlikely. Same as all other Android phones. Nightmare to get root and after that, you

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2010/1/7 Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com [...] http://maemo.org You cant use FSO, because the key parts are closed. The modem handling or even the battery charger daemon is closed source. But there's

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2010/1/7 Nicola Mfb nicola@gmail.com It may be nice to organize a donation to provide such device to FSO/OE/SHR staff. Excellent idea. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Petr Vanek
It may be nice to organize a donation to provide such device to FSO/OE/SHR staff. Excellent idea. +1 Wonderful. How do we get this going? Seems like 600€ in Germany, dunno if with contract or what... what service could we use? Mickey, would this be an option for you? If we get enough

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Jim Ancona
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 17:28 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: What do you think which mobile phone has the most likeliness to RE or somehow put fso on it? - Google Nexus http://www.google.com/phone/

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 07.01.2010 21:08, schrieb Jim Ancona: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 17:28 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: What do you think which mobile phone has the most

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:57:01 Bastian Muck wrote: Am 07.01.2010 21:08, schrieb Jim Ancona: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 6:14 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2010, 17:28 +0100 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS: What do you think which mobile phone

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 07.01.2010, 18:55 +0100 schrieb Petr Vanek: It may be nice to organize a donation to provide such device to FSO/OE/SHR staff. Excellent idea. +1 Wonderful. How do we get this going? Seems like 600€ in Germany, dunno if with contract or what... what service

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-07 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de wrote: - Nokia N900 http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/ Likely. It uses basic GNU/Linux, and the modem interface is at least somewhat known. Advanced drivers (Wifi, BT, PowerManagement, Camera) unknown though. What I

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-06 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
What do you think which mobile phone has the most likeliness to RE or somehow put fso on it? - Google Nexus http://www.google.com/phone/ - Motorola MILESTONE (US version: Droid) http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/XW-EN/Consumer-Products-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/Motorola-MILESTONE-XW-EN Already

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-06 Thread Jim Ancona
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: What do you think which mobile phone has the most likeliness to RE or somehow put fso on it? - Google Nexus http://www.google.com/phone/ The Nexus One has an unlockable bootloader built-in--just agree to the

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-06 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Wednesday 06 January 2010 17:28:07 Laszlo KREKACS wrote: What do you think which mobile phone has the most likeliness to RE or somehow put fso on it? - Nokia N900 http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/ The N900 runs a debian like linux with an X11 server. I'm pretty sure it would be possible to

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-06 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.net wrote: The N900 runs a debian like linux with an X11 server. I'm pretty sure it would be possible to put FSO on it. It is pretty much open. http://maemo.org You cant use FSO, because the key parts are closed. The modem

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-04 Thread Margo
2010/1/4 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there?  I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt cut it any more ... The android phones (htc dream?) - none of which are fully functional on FSO/SHR (I think), and access through

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Montag, den 04.01.2010, 20:08 +0200 schrieb Margo: The Officer S101 seems interesting: http://www.road.de/en/handypcs/officer.html http://blog.hackable1.org/2009/08/running-hackable1-on-the-road-officer-s101.html Unfortunately it has been just around the corner and almost out for about 5

Re: [Shr-User] Alternatives to FR

2010-01-04 Thread W.Kenworthy
This is one I was not aware of - looks nice but its still not 3G capable BillK On Mon, 2010-01-04 at 20:08 +0200, Margo wrote: 2010/1/4 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: What alternatives to the FR (with the same functionality) are there? I want 3G phone/sms access and the FR doesnt