Re: A new approach to Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-03-02 Thread Ortwin Regel
The thing has bluetooth so it should be able to connect to the Wiimote. Using one instead of an internal accelerometer makes sense, because when you move your phone around, it's hard to keep looking at the screen. Ortwin On 3/1/07, adrian cockcroft [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to

Re: A new approach to Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection -THE REAL PROBLEM APPEARED!

2007-03-01 Thread Attila Csipa
On Thursday 01 March 2007 08:41, you wrote: later someone will write a Troyan Horse, some king of dialer (like for application made calls and sent smses. Openmoko kernel should log any What do you think? There are two sides to this problem - one, the origin of software. This has actually

Re: A new approach to Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-03-01 Thread adrian cockcroft
I would like to include an accelerometer in a phone design (my own homebrew design or a future Neo perhaps?), then all the Nintendo Wii style interactions become possible. If my phone is locked it asserts that it should be at rest, if someone picks it up it needs a code or a secret gesture on

A new approach to Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-02-28 Thread Attila Csipa
A lot of ideas have been written on anti theft protection, but much of it from a geek/user's standpoint, and almost completely forgetting the possible ramifications of the suggested techniques. First of all, none of the techniques presented PROTECT your phone from being stolen (they fall more

Re: A new approach to Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-02-28 Thread Steven **
Caveat emptor. Possession of stolen property is still a crime where I live, even if you didn't do the actual stealing. That said, I agree that attempting to rack up a large bill will not prevent theft nor lead to the return of the phone. Any anti-theft mechanisms should focus on locating the

Re: A new approach to Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-02-28 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 21:29, kkr wrote: out that it is sending expensive foreign/roaming SMS-es because the previous owner 'forgot' to turn off a silent alarm/anti theft application Is the same for car alarm... When you sold something, you do have to do the necessary action (in

Re: A new approach to Re: Itch3: Anti-lost/theft protection

2007-02-28 Thread Attila Csipa
On Wednesday 28 February 2007 21:44, Steven ** wrote: Caveat emptor. Possession of stolen property is still a crime where I live, even if you didn't do the actual stealing. All I'm saying (IANAL of course) that for many of those items (especially on places like ebay) it is very hard for the