Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-07 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Christ van Willegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070407 16:24]: > Hi, > > On 4/6/07, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Well, there is only one way on standard GSM modules to disable SMS > >delivery to the phone: When the SIM card SMS slots are filled up. All > >phones/modules I've programme

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-07 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, On 4/6/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On a related note to all of this sms talk... Can you send an sms with delivery receipt to a range of addresses and get back notification for all phone numbers which actually exist? (Obviously it will be one at a time, not boradcast) I guess

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-07 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, On 4/6/07, Andreas Kostyrka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, there is only one way on standard GSM modules to disable SMS delivery to the phone: When the SIM card SMS slots are filled up. All phones/modules I've programmed always receive SMS via these storage slots on the SIM. So I guess fil

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Tim Newsom
On a related note to all of this sms talk... Can you send an sms with delivery receipt to a range of addresses and get back notification for all phone numbers which actually exist? (Obviously it will be one at a time, not boradcast) Or does it just return success once it changed network provid

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Jonathon Suggs
François CHAVANT wrote: I did this kind of test several times. I'm afraid you are wrong... You will first get a receipt explaining that the message is "waiting" then, when the phone you sent the message to is turned on, you will get another receipt ("delivered" status). Well, I guess you learn s

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Knight Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070406 21:31]: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 10:31:47AM -0700, Tim Newsom wrote: > > That seems weird... Even in email you can turn off read receipts... It > > seems like an invasion of sort (though a minor one) to not allow > > disabling of delivery reports for t

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Bradley Hook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070406 21:24]: > SMS most likely uses a mechanism similar (or identical) to the ESMTP DSN > model. See http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3461 for more info. > > With cell phones, it seems that the destination storage medium for the > message server is the phone itse

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Bradley Hook
Knight Walker wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 10:31:47AM -0700, Tim Newsom wrote: >> That seems weird... Even in email you can turn off read receipts... It >> seems like an invasion of sort (though a minor one) to not allow >> disabling of delivery reports for the receiving party. > > There are

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Knight Walker
On Fri, Apr 06, 2007 at 10:31:47AM -0700, Tim Newsom wrote: > That seems weird... Even in email you can turn off read receipts... It > seems like an invasion of sort (though a minor one) to not allow > disabling of delivery reports for the receiving party. There are two kinds of delivery reports

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Bradley Hook
Jonathon Suggs wrote: > Tim Newsom wrote: >> That seems weird... Even in email you can turn off read receipts... It >> seems like an invasion of sort (though a minor one) to not allow >> disabling of delivery reports for the receiving party. >> >> If the sending party can enable it and the receiver

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Christ van Willegen
Hi, On 4/6/07, Jonathon Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rather than get all worried about big brother, just do a simple test. Turn off a phone and send a text message to it. See if you get a receipt. If you do, then I'm right. If you don't get a receipt until the phone you sent a text messag

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread François CHAVANT
Am Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:15:17 -0500 Schrieb Jonathon Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Tim Newsom wrote: > > That seems weird... Even in email you can turn off read receipts... It > > seems like an invasion of sort (though a minor one) to not allow > > disabling of delivery reports for the receiving p

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Tim Newsom
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 11:22, Jonathon Suggs wrote: Ok, I'll be honest that I have no proof that this is how it actually works, but I don't think it works the way you are saying it does. Again, not 100% positive, but the "receipt" that you receive is only a message that it has been successfully t

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Tim Newsom wrote: That seems weird... Even in email you can turn off read receipts... It seems like an invasion of sort (though a minor one) to not allow disabling of delivery reports for the receiving party. If the sending party can enable it and the receivers phone automatically responds, t

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Tim Newsom
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 9:41, Martin Raißle wrote: Is it possible to turn delivery reports off? --Tim I think it's not .. at least not for the receiver of a message ... martin That seems weird... Even in email you can turn off read receipts... It seems like an invasion of sort (though a minor on

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Martin Raißle
On 4/6/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 8:35, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > You cannot block them. But you can make the phone completly ignore it. > OTOH, that's not the same thing because combined with a delivery > report, somebody else can see when you turn your phone o

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070406 18:05]: > > On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 8:35, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: > >You cannot block them. But you can make the phone completly ignore it. > >OTOH, that's not the same thing because combined with a delivery > >report, somebody else can see when you turn your ph

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Tim Newsom
On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 8:35, Andreas Kostyrka wrote: You cannot block them. But you can make the phone completly ignore it. OTOH, that's not the same thing because combined with a delivery report, somebody else can see when you turn your phone on :( Andreas Is it possible to turn delivery reports

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
* Martin Raißle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070406 16:01]: > On 4/6/07, Joe Shmoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Accept all texts" > > "Accept texts from my address book only" > > "Accept texts from the following numbers" > > "Block all texts" > > "Block texts from my address book only" > > "Block

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Friday 06 April 2007 15:56:02 Martin Raißle wrote: > actually i'm not sure if you can block text messages ... maybe someone > knows better .. . > Well obviously the phone would receive them, but you could easily have some rules whether they should be displayed or immediately discarded after tha

Re: Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Martin Raißle
On 4/6/07, Joe Shmoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Accept all texts" "Accept texts from my address book only" "Accept texts from the following numbers" "Block all texts" "Block texts from my address book only" "Block texts from the following numbers" actually i'm not sure if you can b

Blacklist/whitelists

2007-04-06 Thread Joe Shmoe
I'd like to hear what the current plans are for black/whitelists. Call and text behavior should not be coupled. That is, one should be able to independently ignore texts from a person while still allowing phone calls. Here are typical options: "Accept all calls" "Accept calls from my address