Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 17-03-2010 20:54, Niels Heyvaert escreveu: And it's all fine and dandy if it wasn't so damn easy to casually change the mic volume into some unusable mode. One setting works a lot better (at least for me) and I only need to check it after upgrades! Rui Hi Rui, Can you put your sound

RE: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-28 Thread Niels Heyvaert
And it's all fine and dandy if it wasn't so damn easy to casually change the mic volume into some unusable mode. One setting works a lot better (at least for me) and I only need to check it after upgrades! Rui Hi Rui, Can you put your sound settings on the Wiki too? Just so that others

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 16-03-2010 06:23, Timo Jyrinki escreveu: 2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: ' You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with usable sound settings with which I can be heard even from a noisy restaurant by *NOT*USING* the Correct setting. I am not claiming

RE: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-17 Thread Niels Heyvaert
And it's all fine and dandy if it wasn't so damn easy to casually change the mic volume into some unusable mode. One setting works a lot better (at least for me) and I only need to check it after upgrades! Rui Hi Rui, Can you put your sound settings on the Wiki too? Just so that others

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: ' You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with usable sound settings with which I can be heard even from a noisy restaurant by *NOT*USING* the Correct setting. I am not claiming the wrong settings would not help. The main

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 16 March 2010 06:23, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: ' You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with usable sound settings with which I can be heard even from a noisy restaurant by *NOT*USING* the Correct

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 16 March 2010 10:21, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: So, please could we have a bit more respect for people's empirical findings? I should add that I'm aware that you, Timo, are a long time contributor here, and personally I greatly appreciate your contributions, especially with

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: On 16 March 2010 06:23, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: ' You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with usable sound settings with which I can be heard even from a

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/16 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: I have to support Rui here.  I find this over-theoretical argument really annoying. Sorry about that, and sorry about the term misinformation I used in the first post. Do you understand 100% the operation of the Wolfson codec? No. But I do

RE: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Niels Heyvaert
To give some more non-theoretical vibe to this thread, I started a new empirical mic data table at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Empirical_Data_for_Mic_Settings - it's probable it will not be that helpful in searching any one true defaults, but it might be

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Dr. Michael Lauer
Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state file to rule them all - does that hold no longer? Cheers, :M: Am 15.03.2010 um 06:45 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com : Am 14.03.2010 um 23:42 schrieb Ben Wilson: Just my two cents. I think at

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.03.2010 um 08:16 schrieb Dr. Michael Lauer: Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state file to rule them all - does that hold no longer? Yes, storing the device type and modifications in one file *is one state file* that rules all the detailled settings :)

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 15 March 2010, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote: Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state file to rule them all - does that hold no longer? I don't think it ever did, no matter what anyone may have said. Person to person variations are enough to make this so in

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 15.03.2010 08:16, schrieb Dr. Michael Lauer: Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state file to rule them all - does that hold no longer? It was never like this. I always hat do edit the state-files. Even the

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 13-03-2010 17:48, Timo Jyrinki escreveu: Mic Sidetone Mux: 'Mic 2' = the correct setting, please try to not spread misinformation that it'd be wrong simply because it happens to also increase the volume and therefore buzzing as well if other settings are high Mic 2: '3' (= 0dB) Mono

RE: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-14 Thread Niels Heyvaert
Just my two cents. I think at this point distributions' defaults should be towards A7 users, since all new users are anyway A7 users and A5/A6 owners by now are surely aware of the ALSA setting problematics. Hi, If it really depends on the Ax model I think they should be somehow

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-14 Thread Ben Wilson
Just my two cents. I think at this point distributions' defaults should be towards A7 users, since all new users are anyway A7 users and A5/A6 owners by now are surely aware of the ALSA setting problematics. Hi, If it really depends on the Ax model I think they should be somehow

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-14 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 14.03.2010 um 23:42 schrieb Ben Wilson: Just my two cents. I think at this point distributions' defaults should be towards A7 users, since all new users are anyway A7 users and A5/A6 owners by now are surely aware of the ALSA setting problematics. Hi, If it really depends on the Ax

Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-13 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, I just bought myself A7+ FreeRunner since my A5 started to have its USB port breaking, buzz fix faltering, display problematic, plastic case pins broken etc. (1,5+ years of very heavy use:)). I just noticed that A7 requires much lower microphone settings than A5, something known but often

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-13 Thread Łukasz Pankowski
Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com writes: Hi, I just bought myself A7+ FreeRunner since my A5 started to have its USB port breaking, buzz fix faltering, display problematic, plastic case pins broken etc. (1,5+ years of very heavy use:)). I just noticed that A7 requires much lower