Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-31 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Richi, You do know that the object path is specific to the daemon that provides it anyway. The access to a method or signal of an interface is done via the unique bus name _and_ the object path. This means that daemon A can register /org/foo and daemon B can register /org/foo and

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Jim McDonald
Marcel Holtmann wrote: [...] Okay so there has been a fair amount of discussion here but I think we've veered off track a bit. To try to re-phrase my thoughts: - Current DBus object paths are application-centric (this is by choice of the application) - Without a well-known set of paths

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Jim, Okay so there has been a fair amount of discussion here but I think we've veered off track a bit. To try to re-phrase my thoughts: - Current DBus object paths are application-centric (this is by choice of the application) the object paths are specific to the daemon (I prefer

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Kalle Kärkkäinen
ti, 2007-01-30 kello 10:58 +, Jim McDonald kirjoitti: - Current DBus object paths are application-centric (this is by choice of the application) [..snip..] - There seem to be two options (ignoring the uninteresting ones): - take a combination of the existing

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Jim McDonald
Marcel Holtmann wrote: [...] the question is still why. We have EDS. So no reason to invent another interface for the same purpose. Don't try to over-complicate things. So this is an argument against abstraction, which I understand but disagree with. It comes back to the two choices that

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Kalle Kärkkäinen
Hi marcel, the question is still why. We have EDS. So no reason to invent another interface for the same purpose. Don't try to over-complicate things. I'm not saying that there should be any change to dbus as it is. I'm only advocating the 'well-known' part of this all. I'm saying that it's

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Kalle, the question is still why. We have EDS. So no reason to invent another interface for the same purpose. Don't try to over-complicate things. I'm not saying that there should be any change to dbus as it is. I'm only advocating the 'well-known' part of this all. nobody was talking

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Christopher Heiny
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 05:03, Marcel Holtmann scribbled in crayon on the back of a kid's menu: And again. Nobody is going to change D-Bus. It works like it does, but you need to understand how it works. Newbie to Dbus question: any suggestions for a good place to get started on gaining

Re: DBus for Generic Data Access Methods?

2007-01-30 Thread Dimitris Kogias
Therefore it'd require a lot of standardisation to create such a thing where these all would be just another device of type X. If this was possible then we *could* have a dbus address that has a program that could advertise these features. Like this: /xx/yy/zz NETWORKING_FEATURE