To answer a question posed this weekend about JavaFX,
once J2ME and J2SE are supported on OpenMoko, JavaFX
would be fine as well as Java3D optimally. JOGL (Java
OpenGL) would not be useful until NEO has a processor
(Xscale) that has GPU/i3D functionality on-board... Walls
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:00:46 +0800
Wolfgang Spraul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Bzzt, thanks for playing. There is a "Java 1.4 (SE) Technology
> > Preview for ARM" that you can download; this has been available
> > for about 6 months. Unfortunately it doesn't play nice with the
> > particula
va stuff you would like to see
integrated into OpenMoko?
Wolfgang
On Jan 27, 2008, at 12:54 AM, Ian Darwin wrote:
Audrius Meskauskas wrote:
Wallace Jackson wrote:
Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's
JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the
presenter (bigger than life!)... Does this me
Audrius Meskauskas wrote:
Wallace Jackson wrote:
Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's
JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the
presenter (bigger than life!)... Does this mean that
JavaFX is ready to rock for NEO application?
This seems not very likely: JavaFX is something highly adv
Has JavaFX been released?
Can you point me to JavaFX sources you would like to see running on
the Neo (URLs please, Sun's websites are a real maze, almost rivaling
our wiki :-))?
afaik there will be JavaFX Mobile and JavaFX Script.
Rest assured that we will work hard to get all this
Wallace Jackson wrote:
Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's
JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the
presenter (bigger than life!)... Does this mean that
JavaFX is ready to rock for NEO application?
This seems not very likely: JavaFX is something highly advanced and
build on the t
On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 08:27 -0700, Jeremiah Flerchinger wrote:
> I agree that additional hardware should not be added to the default
> phone. If people want additional hardware they should get a custom
> case with extra room to support hobby projects and build/test these
> expansion modules themse
> See
> http://qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php
Only by dual-booting or by using some virtualization layer, since
QTopia uses a totally different way of accessing the frame buffer
(does not use X11). You cannot have QTopia and OpenMoko apps running
at the same time on the same screen, p
tually have works. adding more will add cost and a
lot more time to market. so basically- no. :)
JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the
presenter (bigger than life!)... Does this mean that
JavaFX is ready to rock for NEO application?
no idea at
QTopia). But it will probably NOT be easily miscible with the
OpenMoko software. It's a complete phone stack, like OpenMoko, like
Android, like QTopia.
You can run QTopia on OpenMoko today.
See
http://qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php
Once JavaFX, Android are available, we will wo
I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's
not going to happen. we are at gta02a5 (5th version) and are making zero
changes - we want to make this work and release. we are only in the business
of making sure what we actually have works. adding more will add cost and a
lot more time to market. so basi
Alejandro Enrique wrote on 01/23/2008 08:29 PM:
> What about just stick something like this to the case?
>
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4732
>
> Cheap and easy :)
>
> --
> Alejandro Enrique
>
>
> __
What about just stick something like this to the case?
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4732
Cheap and easy :)
On 23/01/2008, Georg Michelitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Schmidt András wrote on 01/23/2008 06:40 PM:
> > At least this solution consumes zero energy :-)
> >
> > ___
Am Mi 23. Januar 2008 schrieb Wallace Jackson:
> A digital compass would be a nice feature for VIA
> (OpenMoko) to have in the phone as a hardware default.
> Is it inexpensive enough in quantity to include in the
> shipping release!?
http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=7
Schmidt András wrote on 01/23/2008 06:40 PM:
> At least this solution consumes zero energy :-)
>
> ___
> OpenMoko community mailing list
> community@lists.openmoko.org
> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>
Zero energy on the side of FIC
At least this solution consumes zero energy :-)
Georg Michelitsch wrote:
I my opinion, including another piece of hardware on the Neo (and in
detail a device which needs to be isolated from any magnetic influences
by other components) would cause big changes in the hardware layout, so
for the Ne
Wallace Jackson wrote on 01/23/2008 05:45 PM:
> A digital compass would be a nice feature for VIA
> (OpenMoko) to have in the phone as a hardware default.
> Is it inexpensive enough in quantity to include in the
> shipping release!? Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's
> JavaFX ann
Wallace Jackson wrote:
... Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's
JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the
presenter (bigger than life!)... Does this mean that
JavaFX is ready to rock for NEO application?
No. Sun were nice enough to credit OpenMoko for making a superior Linux
phone (see
A digital compass would be a nice feature for VIA
(OpenMoko) to have in the phone as a hardware default.
Is it inexpensive enough in quantity to include in the
shipping release!? Also, I saw a NEO1973 on Sun's
JavaFX announcement release on-line, behind the
presenter (bigger than life!)...
na
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2007 1:01 AM
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Re: Sun JavaFx
>
> Marco Miani wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I've just read this
> >
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id
Jim Thompson writes:
>aren't related (much) to openmoko, so I suggest we take these off-line,
>unless 'the list' decides they would rather watch/join the discussion
>here. (And yes, I agree that I contributed to the discussion going
>off-track.)
I for one have been interested (decades ago I w
not plan.
If OpenMoko is found to be a better environment than (or for) the iPhone
(as well as other phones)... "success!". If Sun's "JavaFX Mobile",
well... "success"!
Jim
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
On 5/10/07, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 5/10/07, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded wrote:
> Shawn,
>
> I have been very involved in this area at Sun now for a couple of
> years. Let me add come comments:
>
> Hardware accelerated Java is actually fairly common already, at
> lea
esktop and server will
distance themselves from co-operating sequential processes before too
much longer.
As for the comparison of JavaFX Mobile with the iPhone: Sure, at
first it looks like a "me too" play, but I think this applies to
the whole mobile industry. The iPhone was a majo
celeration to niche status. Many companies have invested in Java
H/W acceleration and fell into that trap.
As for the comparison of JavaFX Mobile with the iPhone: Sure, at
first it looks like a "me too" play, but I think this applies to
the whole mobile industry. The iPhone was a major
I'm very disappointed that Sun has put off hardware-accelerated Java
devices and Java operating systems for so long (they could have done
this at least 5 years ago, if not more). The much-vaunted Java Chips
never materialized in significant quantities of devices. The Java
Station had such disapp
>>>> Does this mean there will be non-open sourced parts in the stack
>>>> necessary
>>>> to use JavaFX Script?
>>> Sun has already said that JavaFX Mobile (the stuff you need for the
>>> phone) will be GPLed.
>>>
>>> So..
u feel about someone taking the JavaFX Mobile
stack we just talked about and created an independent device, just took
the code, paid Sun nothing, just created a $50 device or a $30 device?"
RG: "To reach everyone?"
JS: "Everyone"
RG: "Perfect! Its just perfect.&
Sander van Grieken wrote:
Sander van Grieken wrote:
I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX
scripting).
That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is
definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running
on.
If I under
> Sander van Grieken wrote:
>>>> I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX
>>>> scripting).
>>> That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is
>>> definitely very high on the list of devices I want
> Sander van Grieken wrote:
>>>> I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX
>>>> scripting).
>>> That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is
>>> definitely very high on the list of devices I want
On Thursday 10 May 2007 12:04:22 Jim Thompson wrote:
> > Does this mean there will be non-open sourced parts in the stack
> > necessary to use JavaFX Script?
>
> Sun has already said that JavaFX Mobile (the stuff you need for the
> phone) will be GPLed.
Humm, thats kinda c
Sander van Grieken wrote:
I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX
scripting).
That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is
definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running
on.
If I understand correctly, JavaFX S
>> I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX
>> scripting).
>
> That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is
> definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running
> on.
If I understand correctly,
Stefano Sanna wrote:
Marco Miani wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've just read this
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310
>
> about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented
> soon WTF it's a Neo
>
2007/5/8, Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On 08/05/07, Marco Miani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've just read this
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310
>
> about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will
Marco Miani wrote:
> Hi
>
> I've just read this
>
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310
>
> about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented
> soon WTF it's a Neo
>
> somebody knows someth
; http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310
>>
>> about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon
>> WTF it's a Neo
>
>
>Now that's funny... But as the text says:
>
>"even as he released a ph
On 08/05/07, Marco Miani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi
I've just read this
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310
about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon
WTF it's a Neo
Now that's funny... But
Hi
I've just read this
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310
about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon
WTF it's a Neo
somebody knows something more ?
bye
Marco
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