Re: Login Manager

2007-08-15 Thread t3st3r
Jeff Andros wrote: simple... display contact info(email, friend's phone number, etc) to return the phone at the login screen... This will be a pretty good reason even for quite dumb evildoers (who is not willing to return device to you on their own) to reflash device with default\empty imag

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-13 Thread Jeff Andros
On 8/10/07, t3st3r <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I see no effective way to combine these 2 different goals.One is > prevents access to data but this will enforce bad guys to do full > reflashing.Killing your (unusable) data but getting working (usable) > phone.Another approach makes guys to bel

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-11 Thread t3st3r
Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, This is w.r.t. having a login manager for OpenMoko. I am not sure how other PDA phones implement login access, but, in the Nokia 6210 classic, even without the SIM card, it simply allows access to the phone, organizer applications, and data. So, if the phone is lost

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-06 Thread Sander van Grieken
> > On 5 Aug 2007, at 16:11, Nkoli wrote: > >> I think your implementation is great; it's logical and clean. The >> only thing I would change is the first boot part. Most phones, if >> not all, allow security conscious users to set some kind of >> password/pin to lock their phones. It should also b

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Rod Whitby
Eric Johnson wrote: > Rod Whitby wrote: >> This is not the case. I personally have a SIM card with *no* PIN on it. >> I could set a PIN on it if I chose to, but for that card I choose not >> to. > Actually, there is always a PIN on the SIM it's just that in your case > it has been disabled -- thi

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Eric Johnson
Rod Whitby wrote: Shakthi Kannan wrote: On 8/5/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Passwords and pins are pretty fiddly, even tedious to enter. AFAIK, when you buy a SIM card, you are given a 4-digit PIN number, which is the only means of authentication between the end-us

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Rod Whitby
Shakthi Kannan wrote: > On 8/5/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Passwords and pins are pretty fiddly, even tedious to enter. > > AFAIK, when you buy a SIM card, you are given a 4-digit PIN number, > which is the only means of authentication between the end-user and the > GSM part of t

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Miquel Herrera
Giles Jones wrote: On 5 Aug 2007, at 16:11, Nkoli wrote: Passwords and pins are pretty fiddly, even tedious to enter. There was some research into using pictures of faces which you click a few of to log in. Now it would be hard to get such images of faces for our use, but I'm sure symbols o

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On 8/5/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SIM lock is fair enough. But phones often have a lock too, plus > keyboard/screen lock. As for the keyboard / screen lock, my thoughts / wishes are: - a keyboard lock is needed, optionally with an unlock code (otherwise it uses only the u

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Giles Jones
On 5 Aug 2007, at 16:58, Shakthi Kannan wrote: Hi, Thanks for your replies. On 8/5/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Passwords and pins are pretty fiddly, even tedious to enter. AFAIK, when you buy a SIM card, you are given a 4-digit PIN number, which is the only means of authenti

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, Thanks for your replies. On 8/5/07, Giles Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Passwords and pins are pretty fiddly, even tedious to enter. AFAIK, when you buy a SIM card, you are given a 4-digit PIN number, which is the only means of authentication between the end-user and the GSM part of the

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Giles Jones
On 5 Aug 2007, at 16:11, Nkoli wrote: I think your implementation is great; it's logical and clean. The only thing I would change is the first boot part. Most phones, if not all, allow security conscious users to set some kind of password/pin to lock their phones. It should also be an opti

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Nkoli
I think your implementation is great; it's logical and clean. The only thing I would change is the first boot part. Most phones, if not all, allow security conscious users to set some kind of password/pin to lock their phones. It should also be an option on the Neo, not a requirement. Example, at

Re: Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Jørgen P. Tjernø
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > This is w.r.t. having a login manager for OpenMoko. > > [ .. snip .. ] > > I read this page: > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/My_Account This idea seems to be a bit too much "work"

Login Manager

2007-08-05 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, This is w.r.t. having a login manager for OpenMoko. I am not sure how other PDA phones implement login access, but, in the Nokia 6210 classic, even without the SIM card, it simply allows access to the phone, organizer applications, and data. So, if the phone is lost, valuable information