Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-06 Thread Vincent MEURISSE
On Saturday 06 June 2009 09:27:06 Harald Welte wrote: This would mean that e.g. every PC mainboard would have to pay the MP3 royalties, They would have to pay for every single audio codec but also for videos, file systems, network protocol… -- Vincent MEURISSE

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 06 June 2009, Harald Welte wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:26:42PM -0700, Steve Mosher wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply for a

Re: MP3 patents

2009-06-06 Thread Radek Polak
Pieter Colpaert wrote: let's create a music uploader for OM2009 SHR (on your pc: so should have a version for linux as well as for mac and wyndaws): The main screen should give us a selector list of all songs on your pc, no matter if they're mp3/ogg/wav/etc when uploaded (through scp, that's

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-06 Thread Steve Mosher
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: 2009/6/5 Tim Schmidt timschm...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steve Mosherst...@openmoko.com wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-06 Thread Steve Mosher
Al Johnson wrote: On Saturday 06 June 2009, Harald Welte wrote: On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 12:26:42PM -0700, Steve Mosher wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode

Re: MP3 patents

2009-06-06 Thread Al Johnson
On Saturday 06 June 2009, Radek Polak wrote: Btw while you can avoid patents with mp3-ogg it's still not possible to do the same for avi, because FR cant play theora vides full screen now (or someone please prove me that i am wrong :) We _might_ be in the clear with h264 when playback is

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 05 June 2009, Christoph Pulster wrote: It's more than welcome to see Openmoko Inc. is still very much in support of the Freerunner/GTA02 and will provide the community with support in areas like the hosting infrastructure as well as the legal side (trademarks). Please remember

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Yorick Moko
true, But although I didn't do any actual testing myself, I read that conversion mp3--ogg sometimes doesn't sound good y On 6/5/09, Pieter Colpaert freep...@gmail.com wrote: I think it's a bad idea in general to discuss the topic. MP3's are non free and should not be used by any openmoko-user.

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply for a license. MP3 was removed from our images long ago and from the repositories. The requirements of the license

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Tim Schmidt
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steve Mosherst...@openmoko.com wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply for a license. So these dolts want a license

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/6/5 Tim Schmidt timschm...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Steve Mosherst...@openmoko.com wrote: I am somewhat constrained in what I am able to say. On one view there is the position, held by some, that any hardware that is merely CAPABLE of mp3 decode is required to apply

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
David, Once was said OM was in sue trying to resolve this but I have no more info on that for a long time. You have a good memory! :-) Yes, we were working with the Software Freedom Law Center in New York on our patent strategy. There was a decision of the US Supreme Court that undid some of

Re: MP3 patents (was: Freerunner's Future)

2009-06-05 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Christoph, Openmoko phones are MP3-free and thus do not infringe on any MP3 intellectual property. Wolfgang Christoph Pulster wrote: It's more than welcome to see Openmoko Inc. is still very much in support of the Freerunner/GTA02 and will provide the community with support in areas like the