Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-12 Thread Helge Hafting
Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: Totally agreed. I've got a phone with which I can't make phone calls without echo and buzzing even though the OM folks have been working on the basics for weeks/months now. Come on... Phone calls are the only basic functionality I can think of in a cell phone. It

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-10 Thread Gothnet
John Lee wrote: I shouldn't say gta03, I should say the next generation software we are going to use. Since people will switch to that software with their freerunner (gta02), it makes more sense to put more resource to work on that. My writing wasn't accurate enough. Sorry about that.

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 11:44 +0800, John Lee wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together with

RE: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread KaZeR
-Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Xavier Bestel Envoyé : mardi 9 décembre 2008 10:15 À : List for Openmoko community discussion Objet : Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06) On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 11:44 +0800, John Lee

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Gothnet
John Lee wrote: Olv is having kernel fun now, but since it's gta03 related, you probably won't see him a lot on the public kernel list. ... OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is fairly limited. I know it's important for OM to keep moving

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Gothnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: John Lee wrote: Olv is having kernel fun now, but since it's gta03 related, you probably won't see him a lot on the public kernel list. ... OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Gothnet
polz wrote: That's just common sense. If you want a working phone, just stick to the Freerunner, maybe try and help get it into a working state. Once the base system is working, you can always buy a GTA03 to get some new, faster, shinier hardware. Yes, but I'm wondering who

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread polz
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 13:52:13 Gothnet wrote: I know it's important for OM to keep moving forward, but really, focusing on gta03? Already? Don't worry about it, the improvements will be back-ported. It's been a few months since GTA02 went GA and we still don't really have a working

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Christoph Siegenthaler
Totally agreed. I've got a phone with which I can't make phone calls without echo and buzzing even though the OM folks have been working on the basics for weeks/months now. Come on... Phone calls are the only basic functionality I can think of in a cell phone. Gothnet wrote: Yes, but I'm

RE: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 10:47 +0100, KaZeR wrote: -Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Xavier Bestel Envoyé : mardi 9 décembre 2008 10:15 À : List for Openmoko community discussion Objet : Re: Optimization team update (11/30

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le mardi 09 décembre 2008, Gothnet a écrit : John Lee wrote: OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is fairly limited. It's been a few months since GTA02 went GA and we still don't really have a working system, focusing most effort on GTA03 now seems to be

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 20:52:13 Gothnet wrote: OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is fairly limited. I know it's important for OM to keep moving forward, but really, focusing on gta03? Already? It's been a few months since GTA02 went GA and we

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread John Lee
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 04:52:13AM -0800, Gothnet wrote: John Lee wrote: Olv is having kernel fun now, but since it's gta03 related, you probably won't see him a lot on the public kernel list. ... OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is fairly

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Christoph Siegenthaler
Hey! I gave QTExtended 4.4.2 another go and you were right. It really is the best option to use the FR as a basic phone atm. I'm not sure why I didn't like it after flashing it the first time. I think I had some issues with suspending. Haven't had any problems with it so far, using the

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 7:01:48 pm Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: The echo isn't so bad either, but still there. Yeah, it only tries to set the echo suppression for outgoing calls. I tried to patch it to set it for incoming calls as well but without any success. I also find that mine goes into

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Yorick Moko
but what part of that 13% is caused by the absence of deep sleep (both for GSM and for lcd) ? this seemed to me something that had to be calculated/measured before removing it... (for the record: i have never had a WSOD, but I did have the re-registering bug) but i consider both as not fixed.

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Esben Stien
John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: opkg is obviously not very efficient, both in memory and in speed I don't care much about opkg since I use debian, but is there some rationale for developing a new package management system that I can read? -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Damien Thébault
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 09:01, Christoph Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Does someone know a way to turn of word prediction in the handwriting input style? Like I wrote in an earlier email, draw the following triangle: bottom-left - bottom-right - top - bottom-left And choose the abc

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Bastian Muck
Christoph Siegenthaler schrieb: Hey! I gave QTExtended 4.4.2 another go and you were right. It really is the best option to use the FR as a basic phone atm. I'm not sure why I didn't like it after flashing it the first time. I think I had some issues with suspending. Haven't had any problems

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 08 December 2008, Esben Stien wrote: John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: opkg is obviously not very efficient, both in memory and in speed I don't care much about opkg since I use debian, but is there some rationale for developing a new package management system that I can read?

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread John Lee
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without actually flashing

Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread John Lee
Dear Community, Team status update: As in http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/036792.html (send/receive files via bluetooth in NEO), Erin keeps working on bluetooth. Jeremy fixed some qtopia and location bugs, and will continue learning more about kernel. The GTK redraw

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Hans-Martin
Am Sonntag, 7. Dezember 2008 17:50:14 schrieb John Lee: Dear Community, Team status update: ... * The infamous WSOD (#1841) seems to be solved. It's already in testing repo. Praise for all helped in this! I tested the whole day and you don't know how happy i am: WSOD seems to be gone

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Thomas Bumbl
The problem is: This is afaik not a fix but a workaround which costs battery power. So I think there should be two kernels: One with and one without this patch. 2008/12/7 John Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Community, Team status update: As in

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Christoph Siegenthaler
Dear Community I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few weeks). Positive: - Boot time improved - Suspending worked fairly well - At least one

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The problem is: | This is afaik not a fix but a workaround which costs battery power. | So I think there should be two kernels: | One with and one without this patch. There's a small hit on suspend

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread John Lee
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 11:24:40AM -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: Dear Community I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few weeks).

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Warren Baird
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slowly but steadily my enthusiasm for the FR is vanishing. I was at least hoping to be able to use my freerunner as a basic phone after 5 months... Sorry if I'm repeating myself here - but try QTExtended 4.4.2 -

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 03:11:46PM -0500, Warren Baird wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slowly but steadily my enthusiasm for the FR is vanishing. I was at least hoping to be able to use my freerunner as a basic phone after 5 months...

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: Dear Community I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few weeks).

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Kishore
On Monday 08 Dec 2008 2:32:00 am Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 03:11:46PM -0500, Warren Baird wrote: On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Slowly but steadily my enthusiasm for the FR is vanishing. I was at least hoping

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Minh Ha Duong
My native language is Chinese, so it's kind of difficult for me to enhance I consider writing as another information product just like code. It needs debugging too, and peer review (i.e. many eyes) is the key. Think testing team. I am in the academia, and systematically have one or two

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Denis Johnson
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Kishore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe it has something to do with hardware revisions. I get the same kind of battery life. I have a GTA02V5 and I'm also experiencing 36-48 hour battery life with QTExtended 4.4.2. This is with suspend enabled. cheers Denis