Tilman Baumann wrote: > Tilman Baumann wrote: > >>> i'd think it would make little sense so make the system >>> that fragile. fix the memory usage issue - don't just "get more slow slow >>> slow" >>> ram. :) >> As i said, i had made the experience that it improved the system >> greatly. Shouldn't we just test it? >> Perhaps, that is what i will try to do with my Neo1973 soon... > > This is how swap was used after launching some apps simultaniously > (tangogps, navit, browser, mediaplayer) using them for some time and > then shut them down again: > total used free shared buffers cached > Mem: 126268 111008 15260 0 1304 68736 > -/+ buffers/cache: 40968 85300 > Swap: 64720 44 64676
Now with sysctl vm.overcommit_memory=0 If i had knew before.... This is with tangogps, navit, mediaplayer and debug tool (python) running at the same time. And still less memory used than before without these apps running! #free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 126268 110124 16144 0 1472 58012 -/+ buffers/cache: 50640 75628 Swap: 64720 0 64720 This is after i closed all the apps: #free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 126268 93896 32372 0 1472 56620 -/+ buffers/cache: 35804 90464 Swap: 64720 0 64720 93896Kb vs 111008Kb difference between without and with overcommit! In words 17Mb saved. And this is while idle. No apps running. (I have not saved any measurement while i had lots of apps running last time. So i have no comparison for that.) Suprisingly, no swap is used this time. But on the other hand not so suprisingly. There is tons of unused RAM free, why bother. And maybe the 44k last time where really only some unusually leaked mem. Conclusion: You can bet i will use overcommit. And because i see no downside i will use swap too. I encourage openmoko and dist builders to think about it too. For those of you who like to try. I have a quick hack. Put these lines at the end of the initscript /etc/init.d/mountall.sh ###### if test -e /media/card/swapfile then swapon /media/card/swapfile fi sysctl vm.overcommit_memory=0 ###### You can choose any other file or make your own, since it is a quick hack i did not bother. Remember, /media/card/ needs to be mounted. Then execute these commands once and reboot. dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/card/swapfile bs=1024 count=65536 mkswap /media/card/swapfile This makes 64Mb of swap, you could choose a smaller size if you want. Bigger is probably overkill. Depends on how valuable free SD card space is to you. ;) Using a swap partition would be possible too. But then i would have needed to partition the SD card which i did not want to do right now. I think i will make some scripts some time which detect the presence of swapfiles of swap partitions and uses them automatically. And some small helper app to let the user prepare the system for that. (creating swapfile) Should not be too bad to make. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. _______________________________________________ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community