Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-18 Thread Brenda Wang
I put Distributions page link on mainpage , now . On the Join Openmoko development Every one can find this links on Distributions section. Thanks for reminding. And feel free to let me know , what else I miss? or ??? Brenda Stroller wrote: Hi there, I thought to try fixing a small part of

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-18 Thread Brenda Wang
Yes, these tree parts is the core of wiki. The most important . Brenda steve wrote: Organizing the wiki is a monumental task. My suggestion for the front page was three categories as opposed to your 5 1. Products. 2. Developer resources. 3. Community. No system will be perfect and no

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-18 Thread Hugo Mills
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 03:29:11PM -0500, Steven ** wrote: I'll tell you explicitly. Go ahead. It's a wiki! If anyone doesn't like your change, they can easily see the history and revert it. Or just clean up your change however they like. That's what makes the wiki so powerful. If they

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-18 Thread Hugo Mills
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 06:23:39PM -0700, steve wrote: The issue is the wiki grows like a weed. On one hand this is great since information just get posted. On the other hand this rhapsodic construction is difficult to navigate. So... Solutions welcomed. This is what the wiki editors

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-18 Thread JW
Ok here are two ideas 1) Use mind mapping software using the existing links in the WIKI to let people search / view the wiki info in a different way 2) Allow each page to be receive votes in the following ways On 18/07/2008, Hugo Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-18 Thread JW
On 18/07/2008, JW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok here are two ideas 1) Use mind mapping software using the existing links in the WIKI to let people search / view the wiki info in a different way 2) Allow each page to be receive votes in the following ways i) can give whole page or

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread Brenda Wang
Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page Brenda Scott Derrick ??: Perhaps this is

RE: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread steve
Brenda The main page index does not address Scotts issue. I second scott's criticism of the wiki. It is not organized well. A good start would be a better search engine Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda Wang Sent:

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread Stroller
Hi there, I thought to try fixing a small part of this particular problem by editing the main page adding a link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/ wiki/Distributions But I do not see where to put it! Perhaps it should replace the Current software stack link to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/7/17 Brenda Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this Index page. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread AVee
On Thursday 17 July 2008 23:35, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/7/17 Brenda Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on wiki , Please use this

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread matt joyce
AVee wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008 23:35, Dotan Cohen wrote: 2008/7/17 Brenda Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am wiki full time editor of Openmoko. Thank you for your opinion . I will put more effort , to make wiki more easy to use. And now , If you want to know what we have on

RE: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread steve
Organizing the wiki is a monumental task. My suggestion for the front page was three categories as opposed to your 5 1. Products. 2. Developer resources. 3. Community. No system will be perfect and no organization of data will suit everyone since we all carve The world up in different ways.

RE: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread steve
The issue is the wiki grows like a weed. On one hand this is great since information just get posted. On the other hand this rhapsodic construction is difficult to navigate. So... Solutions welcomed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-17 Thread Stroller
Ok. Finally! Done. The main page is built up from, as I perceive it, an ugly mess of templates. The box underneath the green Introduction to Openmoko (containing the Original core team ... Why Openmoko? links) is put there by referencing Template:Mainpage - this contains nothign but the

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-16 Thread BrendaWang
Make pages easy to find is always the first priority of wiki management. I agree with you . Openmoko wiki has thousands of pages, not easy to find everything. So, we just made a Index page, every page will listed on it. Then , I had made each wiki page of Openmoko had their own category since

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jul 2008, at 18:27, Curtis Vaughan wrote: Since Ken really liked OpenWRT's Wiki, I looked at it and see they use MoinMoin. So, I am willing to set up MoinMoin on a server to be used as an FR community wiki. I don't think that's the problem. I think the problem is with the

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-15 Thread John Reese
Stroller wrote: I thought today about starting a Freerunner usability page on the wiki, as it seems a very common FAQ on IRC. New users are not satisfied with the software's not stable yet but instead want to know how 'alpha' is it? can I make calls and send texts? how about

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-15 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now I'm happy to edit Wikipedia or OpenStreetMaps, but not the Openmoko wiki and I'm not sure why that is. I've seen something FWIW, what I do if I don't feel comfortable enough editing a page on the (Openmoko)

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-15 Thread Scott Derrick
Perhaps this is what you seek? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions This is a great page, one of the gems hidden in the bowels of the OM Wiki. Its also a great example of whats wrong with the Wiki. But how do I find it? Its not listed on the home page, not on the FreeRunner page,

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-15 Thread John Reese
Scott Derrick wrote: But how do I find it? Its not listed on the home page, not on the FreeRunner page, not on the getting started page?Unless I search for exactly teh right word or combinations of words I would never know it existed... The only link I could find, after I knew it

Re: In the press. The OpenMoko wiki - a tangled pile of mostly outdated and incomplete documentation.

2008-07-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jul 2008, at 19:45, John Reese wrote: Stroller wrote: I thought today about starting a Freerunner usability page on the wiki, as it seems a very common FAQ on IRC. New users are not satisfied with the software's not stable yet but instead want to know how 'alpha' is it? can I make