true, that would be easier. But it also need more electronics.
On 3 March 2012 19:25, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote:
On Saturday 03 March 2012 10:00:27 Lionel Broche wrote:
Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an
averaged-skilled
person to carry out the
Am 03.03.2012 um 11:00 schrieb Lionel Broche:
Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an averaged-skilled
person to carry out the customisation of the GTA04 board to change the
connector?
Also, would it be feasible to make a GTA04 module that could be connected to
Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an averaged-skilled
person to carry out the customisation of the GTA04 board to change the
connector?
Also, would it be feasible to make a GTA04 module that could be connected
to external screens while powered, so that you could switch from
On Saturday 03 March 2012 10:00:27 Lionel Broche wrote:
Coming back to the original message, is it possible for an averaged-skilled
person to carry out the customisation of the GTA04 board to change the
connector?
Also, would it be feasible to make a GTA04 module that could be connected
to
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
As far as I know, EAGLE 6 has a new XML format. So it should be possible
to convert the file using the free (beer) version to XML. And from there to
any tool of interest.
Ok. The summary seems to be that if somebody wants to see the GTA04
[cut]
Ok. The summary seems to be that if somebody wants to see the GTA04
schematics they have to use non-free software, at least for the initial
conversion step.
Indeed it doesn't look good. IIRC Openmoko used GPL tools (KiCAD?) with
some patches for schematics, right? Couldn't Goldelicious
Am 02.03.2012 um 10:04 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
As far as I know, EAGLE 6 has a new XML format. So it should be possible
to convert the file using the free (beer) version to XML. And from there to
any tool of interest.
Ok. The
this is funny...
you can use the same argument for windows.
So GTA04 is not totally free snd then we can all buy an huawey+android
phone...
Bye
d
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com
wrote:
Am 02.03.2012 um 10:04 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
Dr. H.
Am 02.03.2012 um 10:20 schrieb Patryk Benderz:
[cut]
Ok. The summary seems to be that if somebody wants to see the GTA04
schematics they have to use non-free software, at least for the initial
conversion step.
Indeed it doesn't look good. IIRC Openmoko used GPL tools (KiCAD?) with
some
Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl writes:
Indeed it doesn't look good. IIRC Openmoko used GPL tools (KiCAD?)
with
Openmoko had the same problem. It was gta02-core project that pioneered
an effort to convert the gta02 schematics to kicad format and improved
kicad in the process.
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
No, I would not conclude that. One just needs to develop a file import
converter for any free CAD software, if it does not yet exist.
Hmm, let me rephrase it then:
The summary seems to be that if somebody wants to see the GTA04
schematics
Am 02.03.2012 um 10:29 schrieb Davide Scaini:
this is funny...
you can use the same argument for windows.
So GTA04 is not totally free snd then we can all buy an huawey+android
phone...
If you think huawey+android is free enough for you...
Get one and try to design an adapter board for a
Am 02.03.2012 um 10:42 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
No, I would not conclude that. One just needs to develop a file import
converter for any free CAD software, if it does not yet exist.
Hmm, let me rephrase it then:
The summary seems
Am 02.03.2012 um 10:48 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Am 02.03.2012 um 10:42 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
No, I would not conclude that. One just needs to develop a file import
converter for any free CAD software, if it does not yet
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
Yes. Right. Somebody else has to jump in.
We can't solve all problems of the world. Can you?
Of course not, I was only trying to figure out the facts here. It is
important that people realize what bits still need work.
Am 02.03.2012 10:42, schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
No, I would not conclude that. One just needs to develop a file import
converter for any free CAD software, if it does not yet exist.
Hmm, let me rephrase it then:
The summary seems to
On Thursday 01 of March 2012 23:59:39 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes:
You can just install latest eagle 6.1 (win, linux, mac) and use it
with light license for free which limits to 100x80mm board size and 2
layers. This freeware version exists as long as i
[cut]
Openmoko had the same problem. It was gta02-core project that pioneered
an effort to convert the gta02 schematics to kicad format and improved
kicad in the process.
I am sorry, you are right, thanks for correcting me. Anyway my point
stays valid. Couldn't KiCAD be used for this?
--
Am 02.03.2012 um 13:45 schrieb Patryk Benderz:
[cut]
Openmoko had the same problem. It was gta02-core project that pioneered
an effort to convert the gta02 schematics to kicad format and improved
kicad in the process.
I am sorry, you are right, thanks for correcting me. Anyway my point
[cut]
Yes, sure. The requirements to the design tool for such an adapter board
are not heavy. It can be done on 2 layers in 6 mil traces. So I am sure you
can design such adapters with KiCAD.
Seems I was not clear enough. Can Timo Juhani Lindfors use KiCAD to
open GTA04 schematics?
Am 02.03.2012 um 17:26 schrieb Patryk Benderz:
[cut]
Yes, sure. The requirements to the design tool for such an adapter board
are not heavy. It can be done on 2 layers in 6 mil traces. So I am sure you
can design such adapters with KiCAD.
Seems I was not clear enough. Can Timo Juhani
Am 01.03.2012 um 11:20 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
We now have released the schematics and board file of such an expander board
(EAGLE 5.x format).
I understood that it was not possible to open EAGLE files with free
software. Is this
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com writes:
There is a free (as in free beer) version of EAGLE with minor limitations.
And any major CAD tool can import it.
At least two years ago when I was trying to find software that can open
EAGLE files for Arduino boards I could not find any free
At least two years ago when I was trying to find software that can open
EAGLE files for Arduino boards I could not find any free software to do
that. Maybe all the major CAD tools are non-free?
The two major professional and free EDA tools for PCBs are
1. KiCad http://kicad.sourceforge.net
2.
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@sharism.cc writes:
At least two years ago when I was trying to find software that can open
EAGLE files for Arduino boards I could not find any free software to do
that. Maybe all the major CAD tools are non-free?
The two major professional and free EDA tools for PCBs
Timo Juhani Lindfors a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 13:40:
Wolfgang Spraul wolfg...@sharism.cc writes:
At least two years ago when I was trying to find software that can open
EAGLE files for Arduino boards I could not find any free software to do
that. Maybe all the major CAD tools are non-free?
Gilles Filippini a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 22:04:
The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian.
$ apt-cache show eagle
Package: eagle
Version: 5.12.0-1
[...]
Description-en: Printed circuit board design tool
Eagle includes a layout editor, schematic editor, and an autorouter.
The
Am 01.03.2012 22:07, schrieb Gilles Filippini:
Gilles Filippini a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 22:04:
The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian.
$ apt-cache show eagle Package: eagle Version: 5.12.0-1 [...]
Description-en: Printed circuit board design tool Eagle includes
a layout editor,
Gilles Filippini p...@debian.org writes:
The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian.
You mean the one that is in the non-free section?
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Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes:
You can just install latest eagle 6.1 (win, linux, mac) and use it
with light license for free which limits to 100x80mm board size and 2
layers. This freeware version exists as long as i can remember for
eagle. :)
I don't want limits, sorry :-)
Am 01.03.2012 um 22:47 schrieb Fox Mulder:
Am 01.03.2012 22:07, schrieb Gilles Filippini:
Gilles Filippini a écrit , Le 01/03/2012 22:04:
The is a free light version of EAGLE in Debian.
$ apt-cache show eagle Package: eagle Version: 5.12.0-1 [...]
Description-en: Printed circuit board
Am 01.03.2012 um 22:59 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net writes:
You can just install latest eagle 6.1 (win, linux, mac) and use it
with light license for free which limits to 100x80mm board size and 2
layers. This freeware version exists as long as i can remember
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