Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-25 Thread ßingen
El Martes 24 Febrero 2009, Alexander Mueller escribió: Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving. Hi, for the two way sync and

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Helge Hafting
Alexander Mueller wrote: Uah, having to run an xserver just for an app being able to run on windows sounds just terrible to me. There are so many cross platform GUI frameworks out there, so why not chose one of these? Just think of the xserver as a windows compatibility layer Macs and

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Alexander Mueller
Well, I have worked with several X applications on Windows as well as on the Mac and I hated it. You can see its not a native application because the user interface doesnt match the native one. And about a desktop application. To me such a thing isnt jusr a remote frontend for the phone, but

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Alexander Mueller xelarel...@web.de writes: Especially with the Openmoko this is true after reflashing the device. Why not just rsync your home directory? (And also, I have not reflashed my device for at least 6 months, using debian here..) ___

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Suraj Barkale
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Andreas Willich andreas_will...@gmx.at wrote: Hi List I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) After a mail from c_c

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Alexander Mueller
Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving. Alex Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Alexander Mueller xelarel...@web.de writes:

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 24 February 2009, Alexander Mueller wrote: Excellent point. The Agenda PDA used this method of syncing or backing up. Well I use rsync a lot. But it is rather a one-way backup tool than a two way sync tool that takes care of collision resolving. Have you tried Unison? It does two

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-24 Thread Alexander Mueller
Yes, but you still have the problem of the conflict resolution. First, this doesnt work if files are changed on both sides. Which to chose? And with a real sync app versus a file sync app it would present the contents of the conflicted data side by side and asking you what to do. And I am not

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-23 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
time ago I have strarted a project called PoCoMoko[1], with this intention, it still barely a empty PyGtk frontend but if you need take whatever you like. I think a good PC suite will be a killer app to use OM as daily phone, you have all my support. Also the ability of the Neo to ssh and the

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-23 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 22 February 2009, Marcel wrote: I like the idea. Doing setup on the Neo is quite painful from time to time, especially due to the lack of a hardware quertz keyboard. It does work nicely with USB and bluetooth keyboards. ___ Openmoko

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Andreas Willich wrote: Hi List I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) After a mail from c_c (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got the idea to

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-23 Thread Alexander Mueller
Uah, having to run an xserver just for an app being able to run on windows sounds just terrible to me. There are so many cross platform GUI frameworks out there, so why not chose one of these? wxPython for Python, wxWidgets for C++ Of course there is QT as well. Alex George Brooke schrieb:

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Marcel
Am Sunday 22 February 2009 10:54:01 schrieb Andreas Willich: Hi List I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) After a mail from c_c

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread ßingen
El Domingo 22 Febrero 2009, Andreas Willich escribió: I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) After a mail from c_c (http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-f528198 ) I got

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Marcel
Am Sunday 22 February 2009 11:23:25 schrieb ßingen: El Domingo 22 Febrero 2009, Andreas Willich escribió: I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) After a mail from c_c

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Alexander Mueller
I think it would be so helpful to have something like it. But I would rather not compare it to the Nokia suite but to Palm Desktop. Well being a palm user for ages this might be the reason. What kind of sync protocol to you intend to implement. SyncML seems to make the most sense to me. And

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Daniel.Li
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 10:54 +0100, Andreas Willich wrote: Hi List I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) After a mail from c_c

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread George Brooke
On Sunday 22 February 2009 09:54:01 Andreas Willich wrote: Hi List I am currently developing a PIM synchronization app for the Neo (https://projects.openmoko.org/projects/mokosync/ http://www.opkg.org/package_134.html ) After a mail from c_c

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes
If you are targetting FSO (as you should, since alternative are not maintained), my understanding is that the PIM API part (opimd?) supports several different backends for actually storing the information (i.e. the FSO layer only provides a dbus layer on top of whatever is underneath) For

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:02:37 +0100 Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote: If you are targetting FSO (as you should, since alternative are not maintained), my understanding is that the PIM API part (opimd?) supports several different backends for actually storing the information

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich
Your idea is interesting. But as I am a lazy user, I want all my settings within one GUI. Additional I want to use the application under Windows. I have to use Windows and Office at my work and there I have the most time the neo connected with my PC. And the application is more targeting the

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 12:02 +0100, Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes wrote: If you are targetting FSO (as you should, since alternative are not maintained), my understanding is that the PIM API part (opimd?) supports several different backends for actually storing the information (i.e. the FSO layer

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich
At the moment MokoSync is a client/server application. It is written in C# and runs with Mono on the Neo. Currently it uses the .NET RPC library to communicate with each other. As far as I know, SyncML has not only definitions for syncing data. It also contains definitions for device management.

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Andreas Willich
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 12:09 +0100, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:02:37 +0100 Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes gunnar.grim...@dfki.de wrote: If you are targetting FSO (as you should, since alternative are not maintained), my understanding is that the PIM API part (opimd?)

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread George Brooke
On Sunday 22 February 2009 19:25:40 Andreas Willich wrote: Your idea is interesting. But as I am a lazy user, I want all my settings within one GUI. Additional I want to use the application under Windows. I have to use Windows and Office at my work and there I have the most time the neo

Re: Need for application like PC Suite from Nokia?

2009-02-22 Thread Gunnar AAstrand Grimnes
I also think I read somewhere on the mailing lists that sending sms's from the command line is possible. There was a script for 2008.X that would launch the GUI app to send. With FSO it's trivial with the dbus utility. - Gunnar ___ Openmoko