Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread Lally Singh
These sound like fun! Is there any way to get a higher-bandwidth connection out of the OM than USB? Say if we wanted to double-output the video signal or whatever. On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really very simple. Someone hack one together, take

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread Michele Renda
Lally Singh wrote: These sound like fun! Is there any way to get a higher-bandwidth connection out of the OM than USB? Say if we wanted to double-output the video signal or whatever. Remember it is a phone, not a star trek pad :) Freerunner is projected to have an Usb2 port and I think it

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread Ivo Anjo
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freerunner is projected to have an Usb2 port and I think it is good enough to use with a cam, or to plug a pendrive or an USB HD. I don't think its usb2... at least the wiki mentions usb1.1 everywhere. Can you check

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
Am So 16. März 2008 schrieb Ivo Anjo: On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freerunner is projected to have an Usb2 port and I think it is good enough to use with a cam, or to plug a pendrive or an USB HD. I don't think its usb2... at least the

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread Michele Renda
I apologize. I was wrong. I think it is still good enough to read / write usb pendrive but it can give problem in case of a webcam (I am thinking to 1.3 MPix webcam). But for a normal vga webcam I think there are not problems Ivo Anjo wrote: On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 9:04 AM, Michele Renda

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Could you confirm that USB2 devices are actually recognized in _highspeed_ mode (Freerunner), and which transfer rate we might expect? They are recognized as 12Mbps devices, that's all that we can handle

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
Am So 16. März 2008 schrieb Andy Green: - gpg control packet Somebody in the thread at some point said: Could you confirm that USB2 devices are actually recognized in _highspeed_ mode (Freerunner), and which transfer rate we might expect? They are recognized as 12Mbps devices, that's

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Michele Renda
I was thinking also to a mini usb cam to be plugged on lateral part. This will trasform the phone in a videophone (with wifi coferage) or in a little photo machine. What do you think about? 2008/3/13, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Jens Fursund
That is a nice idea, would like to have an accessory like that to make my neo into a camera, when I need it... On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Michele Renda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking also to a mini usb cam to be plugged on lateral part. This will trasform the phone in a

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: That is a nice idea, would like to have an accessory like that to make my neo into a camera, when I need it... It is a nice idea. The Y cable is a nice idea too. But (it's just my personal take) the

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Michele Renda
I am happy this interest someone. The advantages of an external mini usb camera is: 1. It does not require reproject of hardware (it is nice to have autoalimented usb port :) 2. It can be bought only if a person want, who don't like don't buy it. 3. It can be upgrader with a better version if

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread David Samblas Martinez
Hi Michele once I can adquire a GTA2 one of the hacking task I would like to do is to attach a common web cam and do pictures/video capture. If it works fine I will try to protototype a way to attach it to the neo that seems integrated with the phone it self. Another thing I'm wishing to do is

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: I am happy this interest someone. The advantages of an external mini usb camera is: 1. It does not require reproject of hardware (it is nice to have autoalimented usb port :) 2. It can be bought only

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Michele Renda
As attachment there is an image that explain better my idea (png format) attachment: webcam.png___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: As attachment there is an image that explain better my idea (png format) WAH it look cool! - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora -

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Michele Renda
What I think there is the need is something like this: http://www.teknobazar.it/shop/product_info.php?products_id=721 This can be good to plug a pendrive or a standard keyboard :), a webcam or a sd reader. About the clip I think it can be a problem. I don't think it will be nice to break the

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: What I think there is the need is something like this: http://www.teknobazar.it/shop/product_info.php?products_id=721 This can be good to plug a pendrive or a standard keyboard :), a webcam or a sd

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Ortwin Regel
How about using Bluetooth? Yeah, it would be a little strange but think of it like this: You could take your phone out of the cradle when it has finished charging and it would continue playing music while you'd read the next chapter of your ebook in your bed. With WLAN and Bluetooth, the only

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Michele Renda ha scritto: As attachment there is an image that explain better my idea (png format) Really cool... I had this idea too some weeks ago :P -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andy Green ha scritto: You're right, alternatively one with a short cable. Really this should be part of the kit since you just can't actually use USB host without it. I'm very happy to read this...! -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Andy Green ha scritto: You're right, alternatively one with a short cable. Really this should be part of the kit since you just can't actually use USB host without it. I'm very happy to read this...!

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Michele Renda
Also according me this accessory must be part of standard openmoko kit: I think it will not be too much expensive, if bought in to the right producer and in big quantity :) Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Andy

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-13 Thread Michael Shiloh
It's really very simple. Someone hack one together, take pictures, and describe it on a wiki page. As Andy says, once we chickens find our heads we can consider whether to turn these into products or not. Michael Andy Green wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-12 Thread joerg
Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Etienne: I especially would like to see (or design myself) some kind of base station like the ones existing for the iPod with high-quality loudspeakers. Something like that would obviously provide a mean to recharge the phone battery, but could also be designed to

Re: OpenMoko and accessories design

2008-03-12 Thread Jeff Andros
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:06 PM, joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Mi 12. März 2008 schrieb Etienne: Chances to see any kind of changes in layout of GTA02 PCB/housing are *very* low i think. especially since the GSM antenna is at the bottom ( as far away from the gps antenna as possible)