Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-12 Thread Helge Hafting
Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > Totally agreed. I've got a phone with which I can't make phone calls without > echo and buzzing even though the OM folks have been working on the basics > for weeks/months now. Come on... Phone calls are the only basic > functionality I can think of in a cell phone.

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-10 Thread Gothnet
John Lee wrote: > > I shouldn't say gta03, I should say the next generation software we > are going to use. Since people will switch to that software with > their freerunner (gta02), it makes more sense to put more resource > to work on that. My writing wasn't accurate enough. Sorry about th

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-10 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 6:15:15 pm John Lee wrote: > I shouldn't say gta03, I should say the next generation software we > are going to use.  Since people will switch to that software with > their freerunner (gta02), it makes more sense to put more resource > to work on that.  My writing wasn't accura

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread John Lee
On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 04:52:13AM -0800, Gothnet wrote: > John Lee wrote: > > > > Olv is having kernel fun now, but since it's gta03 related, you probably > > won't see him a lot on the public kernel list. > > > > ... > > > > OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtop

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Marek Lindner
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 20:52:13 Gothnet wrote: > > OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia > > is fairly limited. > > I know it's important for OM to keep moving forward, but really, focusing > on gta03? Already? > > It's been a few months since GTA02 went GA an

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le mardi 09 décembre 2008, Gothnet a écrit : > John Lee wrote: > > OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia > > is fairly limited. > > It's been a few months since GTA02 went GA and we still don't really have a > working system, focusing most effort on GTA03 now seems

RE: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Xavier Bestel
discussion > > Objet : Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06) > > > > On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 11:44 +0800, John Lee wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthal

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Christoph Siegenthaler
Totally agreed. I've got a phone with which I can't make phone calls without echo and buzzing even though the OM folks have been working on the basics for weeks/months now. Come on... Phone calls are the only basic functionality I can think of in a cell phone. Gothnet wrote: > > Yes, but I'm wo

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Gothnet
polz wrote: > > > > That's just common sense. If you want a working phone, just stick to the > Freerunner, maybe try and help get it into a working state. Once the base > system is working, you can always buy a GTA03 to get some new, faster, > shinier > hardware. > Yes, but I'm wondering

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Franky Van Liedekerke
On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 1:52 PM, Gothnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > > > John Lee wrote: > > > > Olv is having kernel fun now, but since it's gta03 related, you probably > > won't see him a lot on the public kernel list. > > > > ... > > > > OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current reso

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread polz
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 13:52:13 Gothnet wrote: > I know it's important for OM to keep moving forward, but really, focusing > on gta03? Already? Don't worry about it, the improvements will be back-ported. > It's been a few months since GTA02 went GA and we still don't really have a > working s

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Gothnet
John Lee wrote: > > Olv is having kernel fun now, but since it's gta03 related, you probably > won't see him a lot on the public kernel list. > > ... > > OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is > fairly limited. > I know it's important for OM to keep movin

RE: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread KaZeR
> -Message d'origine- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de > Xavier Bestel > Envoyé : mardi 9 décembre 2008 10:15 > À : List for Openmoko community discussion > Objet : Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06) > > O

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-09 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Tue, 2008-12-09 at 11:44 +0800, John Lee wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > > > I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together > > > with testing-om-gta02-2008120

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread John Lee
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Xavier Bestel wrote: > On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > > I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together > > with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without > > actually fl

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 08 December 2008, Esben Stien wrote: > John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > opkg is obviously not very efficient, both in memory and in speed > > I don't care much about opkg since I use debian, but is there some > rationale for developing a new package management system that I can >

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Bastian Muck
Christoph Siegenthaler schrieb: > Hey! > > I gave QTExtended 4.4.2 another go and you were right. It really is the best > option to use the FR as a basic phone atm. I'm not sure why I didn't like it > after flashing it the first time. I think I had some issues with suspending. > Haven't had any pro

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Damien Thébault
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 09:01, Christoph Siegenthaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Does someone know a way to turn of "word prediction" in the handwriting > input style? Like I wrote in an earlier email, draw the following triangle: bottom-left -> bottom-right -> top -> bottom-left And choose the

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Esben Stien
John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > opkg is obviously not very efficient, both in memory and in speed I don't care much about opkg since I use debian, but is there some rationale for developing a new package management system that I can read? -- Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Yorick Moko
but what part of that 13% is caused by the absence of deep sleep (both for GSM and for lcd) ? this seemed to me something that had to be calculated/measured before removing it... (for the record: i have never had a WSOD, but I did have the re-registering bug) but i consider both as "not fixed". it

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Mon, 8 Dec 2008 7:01:48 pm Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > The echo isn't so bad either, but still there. Yeah, it only tries to set the echo suppression for outgoing calls. I tried to patch it to set it for incoming calls as well but without any success. I also find that mine goes into spe

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Xavier Bestel
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together > with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without > actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few weeks). BTW I just tested these

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-08 Thread Christoph Siegenthaler
Hey! I gave QTExtended 4.4.2 another go and you were right. It really is the best option to use the FR as a basic phone atm. I'm not sure why I didn't like it after flashing it the first time. I think I had some issues with suspending. Haven't had any problems with it so far, using the om-testing

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Denis Johnson
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Kishore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe it has something to do with hardware revisions. I get the same kind of > battery life. I have a GTA02V5 and I'm also experiencing 36-48 hour battery life with QTExtended 4.4.2. This is with suspend enabled. cheers Denis _

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Minh Ha Duong
> My native language is Chinese, so it's kind of difficult for me to enhance I consider writing as another information product just like code. It needs debugging too, and peer review (i.e. many eyes) is the key. Think "testing team". I am in the academia, and systematically have one or two coll

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Kishore
On Monday 08 Dec 2008 2:32:00 am Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 03:11:46PM -0500, Warren Baird wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Slowly but steadily my enthusiasm for the FR is vanishing. I was at > > >

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 11:24 -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > Dear Community > > I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together > with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without > actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few weeks). > >

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 03:11:46PM -0500, Warren Baird wrote: > On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Slowly but steadily my enthusiasm for the FR is vanishing. I was at least > > hoping to be able to use my freerunner as a basic phone after 5 mont

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Warren Baird
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Christoph Siegenthaler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Slowly but steadily my enthusiasm for the FR is vanishing. I was at least > hoping to be able to use my freerunner as a basic phone after 5 months... > > Sorry if I'm repeating myself here - but try QTExtended 4

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread John Lee
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 11:24:40AM -0800, Christoph Siegenthaler wrote: > > Dear Community > > I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together > with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without > actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few wee

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | The problem is: | This is afaik not a fix but a workaround which costs battery power. | So I think there should be two kernels: | One with and one without this patch. There's a small hit on suspend current,

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Christoph Siegenthaler
Dear Community I've been testing todays openmoko-testing-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 together with testing-om-gta02-20081207.uImage.bin after following the ML without actually flashing my freerunner a lot (for a few weeks). Positive: - Boot time improved - Suspending worked fairly well - At least one

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Thomas Bumbl
The problem is: This is afaik not a fix but a workaround which costs battery power. So I think there should be two kernels: One with and one without this patch. 2008/12/7 John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear Community, > > Team status update: > > As in > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/communi

Re: Optimization team update (11/30 ~ 12/06)

2008-12-07 Thread Hans-Martin
Am Sonntag, 7. Dezember 2008 17:50:14 schrieb John Lee: > Dear Community, > > Team status update: >... > * The infamous WSOD (#1841) seems to be solved. It's already in > testing repo. Praise for all helped in this! I tested the whole day and you don't know how happy i am: WSOD seems to be g