Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Kyle Bassett
The GPS should help with that... On 10/15/07, Kero van Gelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But not while walking... Differentiating between motions and situations > will > > be a big challenge. > > Once my Neo knows how I walk, it can detect that I am walking and subtract > the walking > patte

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Kero van Gelder
> But not while walking... Differentiating between motions and situations will > be a big challenge. Once my Neo knows how I walk, it can detect that I am walking and subtract the walking pattern from the accelero data. Remaining data contains noise from walking (hopefully noisy enough to go unde

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Ortwin Regel
But not while walking... Differentiating between motions and situations will be a big challenge. On 10/15/07, Alexey Feldgendler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:57:52 +0200, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's also important to remember that the motion of picki

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Kyle Bassett
I think the idea is great... I've designed a few control systems using accelerometers to time the ejection of parachutes on MPRs/HPRs (Medium/High Power Rockets). The biggest issue is how to interpret the data. One of the largest problems we've had to overcome with accelerometers is averaging the

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 21:57:52 +0200, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's also important to remember that the motion of picking up your phone should not lead to denial of the call... ;) The initial proposal mentioned muting the ringer, not denying the phone. It's perfectly OK to mute

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-15 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
I like the idea - especially because I always have full pockets and it takes hours to fish the phone out ;) Imho it should be possible to implement, a knock should give a peak you can't reach while walking and even if it happens, it shouldn't be that worse. 2007/10/14, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-14 Thread Ortwin Regel
This doesn't work well because the screen moves with the phone. So if you want to scroll right fast, you'll have trouble to see what's going on on the screen. Scrolling should rather be done on the touchscreen because that works really well. However, dragging the map/website as if it was physical i

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Silbermayr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fabian Off wrote: > Well, this exact idea didn't came up before, but there was a discussion > whether an accelerometer could/should be use for input. The summary is: No, > due to the fact the accelerations are too un-uniqe. They might happen while

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Dietz Proepper
ROULLAND bruno: > Hello, this idea could be great, > but this option could shut up the phone when you walk,no ? Depends I think. A short knock might have a different signature. But difficult to judge without a real device. kindest regards, Dietz Proepper ___

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread David Pottage
On Friday 12 October 2007, Oliver wrote: > I've had similar ideas, but haven't posted them yet. Here's one: > > Imagine you're surfing the internet, or checking a map, or something like > that. We don't have a multi-touch screen, so we can't zoom out with our > fingers like iPhone users. Zooming ou

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Oliver
I've had similar ideas, but haven't posted them yet. Here's one: Imagine you're surfing the internet, or checking a map, or something like that. We don't have a multi-touch screen, so we can't zoom out with our fingers like iPhone users. Zooming out, though, is something we really should be able t

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Torsten Wagner
I guess it might be not to hard to implement your idea. This is an classical example of e.g. fault detection. Used in the industry to identify "strange" sensor signals which might indicate a coming fault in the system. The idea is to precisely identify an odd behaviour long before a complete br

RE: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Dean Collins
2-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:community- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dietz Proepper > Sent: Friday, 12 October 2007 5:45 AM > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Subject: Some ideas for th

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Al Johnson
It should be reasonably easy to tell them apart. Knocking the phone should give a sharp peak acceleration with greater magnitude than you would get from walking. We'll only find out by trying it though ;-) On Friday 12 October 2007, ROULLAND bruno wrote: > Hello, this idea could be great, > but

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread J
On 10/12/07, Fabian Off <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Freitag 12 Oktober 2007 11:44:52 schrieb Dietz Proepper: > > Hi, > > > > first, I'm new to this list, hello. > > > > Second, an the reason to subscribe ;-) I've got an idea for using the > > accelerometer. If it came up before, sorry for the

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Fabian Off
Am Freitag 12 Oktober 2007 11:44:52 schrieb Dietz Proepper: > Hi, > > first, I'm new to this list, hello. > > Second, an the reason to subscribe ;-) I've got an idea for using the > accelerometer. If it came up before, sorry for the bandwidth. > > But now, for the real stuff. > The following scenar

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Giles Jones
Dietz Proepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote : > Wouldn't it be more > comfortable to simply knock at the pocket (and therefore the phone), > detect the acceleration of the shock and shut off the bell? I'm sure such an idea is on the wiki already, if not add it. I like the accelerometer, so many

Re: Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread ROULLAND bruno
Hello, this idea could be great, but this option could shut up the phone when you walk,no ? 2007/10/12, Dietz Proepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi, > > first, I'm new to this list, hello. > > Second, an the reason to subscribe ;-) I've got an idea for using the > accelerometer. If it came up befor

Some ideas for the accelerometer

2007-10-12 Thread Dietz Proepper
Hi, first, I'm new to this list, hello. Second, an the reason to subscribe ;-) I've got an idea for using the accelerometer. If it came up before, sorry for the bandwidth. But now, for the real stuff. The following scenario, you carry your phone in some pocket. Now it rings, but you want it to