Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-08-01 Thread Ryan Meador
Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We only need to replace 1 of the 2 3D accels with a 3D gyro. I've not looked > at the size or cost of solid state gyros so I don't know how practical that > might be. > That's not a bad idea... I haven't looked into what accelerometers we have in the F

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-08-01 Thread Andreas Bogk
Al Johnson schrieb: > We only need to replace 1 of the 2 3D accels with a 3D gyro. I've not looked > at the size or cost of solid state gyros so I don't know how practical that > might be. Well, if this: http://www.invensense.com/products/idg_300.html had three axes instead of two, it would

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-08-01 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 01 August 2008, Vinc Duran wrote: > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andreas Bogk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm not a mathematician, but I think I have sufficiently understood > > Kalman filters and dead reckoning. A little known trick is to use > > ordinary integration with th

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-08-01 Thread Andreas Bogk
Vinc Duran schrieb: >> But... what are our chances GTA03 will have a 3D gyro? > Could the accelerometers be substituted for a 3d gyro? No, you need both accelerometer *and* gyro measurements for dead reckoning. Andreas ___ Openmoko community mailing l

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of | 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line. | Isn't that supposed to mean that it still has fixes from 10 satellites. Our G

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Konstantin
Hi there! I'm not Andy obviously, but I think I still can answer that one ;) > Hi Andy, > > I'm the guy who said that. > > Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of > 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line. > Isn't that supposed to mean that it still h

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Vibhav Sharma
Andy Green wrote: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | I'm using OM2007.2 updated to today morning (Thursday July 31), and > | TangoGPS. > | Also have the map cache directory on the card. Normally works fine, but > | when I move indoors, > | gps shows 10 satellite fixes and gives

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Vinc Duran
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Andreas Bogk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not a mathematician, but I think I have sufficiently understood > Kalman filters and dead reckoning. A little known trick is to use > ordinary integration with the strap-down equation given the > accelerometer and g

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Andreas Bogk
Brian Wilson schrieb: > See http://www.trimble.com/tms/placer450.aspx?dtID=overview > > They use a small gyroscope. [...] > If you are walking around and want a reasonable position the Kalman > filter would probably be easier to deal with. > Is there a mathematician in the house? I'm not a mathe

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm using OM2007.2 updated to today morning (Thursday July 31), and | TangoGPS. | Also have the map cache directory on the card. Normally works fine, but | when I move indoors, | gps shows 10 satellite

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Brian Wilson
> Besides the point that a small pocket-IMU would be great. To GPS jumts > that big exist? As fas as i understand GPS it should have little jitter. Trimble had a few GPS models out with dead reckoning. Not pocket sized. I think they are all off the market now. I got one off Ebay a few weeks ago b

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Vibhav Sharma
Tilman Baumann wrote: > Andy Green wrote: > >> > Inertial navigation systems for the masses! > Anyone here who wants to write a kalman filter? > > Besides the point that a small pocket-IMU would be great. To GPS jumts > that big exist? As fas as i understand GPS it should have little jitte

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Al Johnson
This one? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Gta02_gps_10pf_rework_sop.pdf On Thursday 31 July 2008, steve wrote: > Do folks know wher to find the SOP for the cap fix? > > Tony, if you havent already, go ahead and post the SOP for the cap fix. > It's easy enough to do > And undo. __

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Tilman Baumann
Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | steve schrieb: > |> Amaybe when SD I/O occurs one could use the accelerometers to dead > reckon? > | > | Dead reckoning without gyros is pretty hard. In theory, the two > | acc

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | steve schrieb: |> Amaybe when SD I/O occurs one could use the accelerometers to dead reckon? | | Dead reckoning without gyros is pretty hard. In theory, the two | accelerometers are not mounted in the sam

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Andreas Bogk
steve schrieb: > Amaybe when SD I/O occurs one could use the accelerometers to dead reckon? Dead reckoning without gyros is pretty hard. In theory, the two accelerometers are not mounted in the same place and thus could be used to derive rotation, but in practice they're pretty close to each

Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Do folks know wher to find the SOP for the cap fix? | | Tony, if you havent already, go ahead and post the SOP for the cap fix. It's | easy enough to do | And undo. Did you ever do it, steve? - -Andy -

RE: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread steve
] On Behalf Of Jay Vaughan Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2008 1:24 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue > (We have external LNA) It means it can track with a 16dBm reduction > in GPS signal after it ma

RE: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue

2008-07-31 Thread steve
008 1:14 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue > I haven't had any problems with TTFF since the software update was > done. In fact my impression from all the emails on the subject was > that t