Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-12 Thread Duv
do at this point is keep an eye... see that things don't go south. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-should-a-community-manager-do--tp1318997p1321791.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Rod, It seems that access was granted sometime between then and now oh great, I'm happy to hear that. Maybe we don't talk about it enough publicly: We have an 'admin trac' issue tracker, that _EVERYBODY_ can use to send requests to the Openmoko admins. This is a public resource, same as

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-12 Thread Rod Whitby
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Rod, It seems that access was granted sometime between then and now oh great, I'm happy to hear that. Maybe we don't talk about it enough publicly: We have an 'admin trac' issue tracker, that _EVERYBODY_ can use to send requests to the Openmoko admins. This is

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-12 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Rod, BTW, I can show you guys how to set up Trac so that you can issue all the developers an SSL client certificate (which you can use in a lot of places instead of username and password) and it automatically logs them into trac using their email address so they automatically get emails

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Saturday 11 October 2008, Rod Whitby wrote: I'll answer this from the point of view of a development community manager. I think you already have a fine end-user community manager in Michael Shiloh. Thank you Rod, you posted all the ideas (and more) about the OM dev process, which were

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Excellent point from Rod! I'm sure actions like this would boost the development to a completely new level! And having better software and rapid development means more satisfied users in the community as well, as soon as some minimal level (I'd say it's working phone in this case :) is reached.

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Stroller
Blimey! Rod makes some GREAT points here - this email should probably be a standard reference document for OSS projects. When I got to the bottom read his credentials they seemed entirely congruent with his insights. I just want to add one little thing, and that's DON'T OVERLOOK THE

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Duv
/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-should-a-community-manager-do--tp1318997p1319758.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Norbert Hartl
Excellent posting!! This is a very good job description for someone like a community manager. Norbert ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Duv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only concern here is that there seems to be a separation between the developer and the user... that in the community both seem to have there little corner. Maybe I am reading that wrong, but if I am not... I am not too sure that

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread digger vermont
On Sat, 2008-10-11 at 05:35 -0700, Duv wrote: I think that we might be at a point where this should be our first concern. How to lift the tide to all boats in the Moko pool. Management of the community is a great start, since what we currently have would be best described as disarray. My

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Peter Neubauer
Hi there, I fully agree with Rod! I would even go so far as to consider having a automatic registration system to get access to GIT, SVN, Wiki and all mailing lists in order to capture even the smallest contribution, regardless of if it is developer coding or correction of spelling errors in the

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Rod Whitby wrote: (Wolfgang told the Openmoko admins to give me svn and git access on the 22 Sept, and nothing has happened yet). I want to make a public retraction and apology on this point. It seems that access was granted sometime between then and now, but either I wasn't informed of that

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I also want to remind that community is not limited to the developers. It should also include all users that can be used to create marketing events and material, generate new ideas and test software and report bugs. I like to think of the distinction between users and

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Duv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only concern here is that there seems to be a separation between the developer and the user... that in the community both seem to have there little corner. Maybe I am reading that wrong, but if I am not...

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:35:12 +1030, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who has the mindset of this is broken, how can I fix it? is a developer. Anyone who has the mindset of this is broken, I expect it to be fixed by someone else right now! is a user. The community will have both

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Lorn Potter
Rod Whitby wrote: Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Duv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My only concern here is that there seems to be a separation between the developer and the user... that in the community both seem to have there little corner. Maybe I am reading that wrong,

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Lorn Potter wrote: Rod Whitby wrote: I'm sorry, but I don't believe one single community manager can cross the divide between the developer and user mindsets that I spoke about in my reply to your earlier post. I disagree. I have been doing exactly that for the last 5 years. Trying to

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Rod Whitby
Joel Newkirk wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 07:35:12 +1030, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone who has the mindset of this is broken, how can I fix it? is a developer. Anyone who has the mindset of this is broken, I expect it to be fixed by someone else right now! is a user. The

Re: What should a community manager do?

2008-10-11 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:18:31 +1030, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joel Newkirk wrote: WRT your final point, we already have the 'Support' mailinglist - my impression is that the intent of that list (not necessarily the actual usage though) is as a place for the 'user' to go when seeking

What should a community manager do?

2008-10-10 Thread Rod Whitby
Steve Mosher said: Sean asked me what I thought of having a community manager. ... I have my ideas about what a community manager would do to organize and mobilize, But before I put those ideas down, I'd like to throw it open to the community. Question: what functions do you see a community