When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On 1/24/07 6:11 AM, Dave Crossland dave at lab6.com wrote: Hi Sean, On 23/01/07, David Ford david at blue-labs.org wrote: You must be reading a different link. Sean's email most clearly states in the form of a user's manual that will give credit to GNU. He also clearly stated We'll just

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Declan Naughton
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation instead? So freedom has nothing to do with it? I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff from Sean alright, but IF you just wrote an apt description of our Agenda,

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote: On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation instead? So freedom has nothing to do with it? I wouldn't be too surprised. I read some nice stuff from Sean

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Declan Naughton
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 18:19 +, Declan Naughton wrote: On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about we let our Agenda be the cool technology and innovation instead? So freedom has nothing to do with it? I wouldn't

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Declan Naughton
On 1/24/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:08 +, Declan Naughton wrote: The Free Your Phone post was perhaps the most interesting announcement we've had yet - Sean thinks we're going to be building the foundation for Ubiquitous Computing - I think he's

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
Here is my reason for using the term GNU/Linux. It's fair to both the Linux developers and to the GNU project. Why is it fair? Well so far I have yet to see either a Linux userland or a GNU kernel so it's a MIXED environment and should be treated like that. There are also other MIXED

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Dave Crossland
On 24/01/07, Richard Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we were to lose the FSF perspective at any stage down the road, then we could end up only able to buy highly sophisticated yet crippled devices which actively impose upon our Freedoms. Like now, but worse. In that sense, I imagine the

Re: When Good Agendas Turn Bad - Linux/GNU, etc

2007-01-24 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Donnerstag, 25. Januar 2007 00:17 schrieb Dave Crossland: The presence of a proprietary userland binary in the main/official distribution makes it a crippled device which actively impose upon our Freedoms. IMHO the right way to deal with this particular problem is to break the GL