Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
--- On Mon, 6/16/08, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AVee wrote: (...) There are a lot of reasons why this is not feasible. Sorry. I tend to agree, however, things might change if you add gps. You'd might just (...) That leaves only the 'exact measurement' to be solved.

Re: tossing contacts / bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
(Macross tossing...) Would be a cool application of the gesture project. The receiver would have to catch, not exactly at the same time, in order to confirm receipt. Possibly incompatible with consumption of buttered toast. Hey, that app would also enable my opponent to throw her

RE: Sony's WII phone - bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread Crane, Matthew
http://www.physorg.com/news132919041.html Copy cats.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of W. B. Kranendonk Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:14 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: bluetooth proximity --- On Mon, 6

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread Ewan Marshall
W. B. Kranendonk wrote: --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AVee wrote: (...) There are a lot of reasons why this is not feasible. Sorry. I tend to agree, however, things might change if you add gps. You'd might just (...) That leaves

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread Tilman Baumann
W. B. Kranendonk wrote: And, on a side note... How impact proof will the phone be, might she try throwing her spear? :-P The weakest link is the screen. :p -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper.

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread ian douglas
Tilman Baumann wrote: Deamons that trigger events when a bloetooth device comes in range have already been implemented. In Ubuntu and Fedora, check out blueproximity -- you sync your bluetooth device with your PC, and set a proximity level in feet (1..30) and when the device goes out of range

bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread Yorick Matthys
Tilman Baumann wrote: W. B. Kranendonk wrote: And, on a side note... How impact proof will the phone be, might she try throwing her spear? :-P The weakest link is the screen. :p With the invisible shield screen protector it should be as well protected as the leading edge of a helicopter blade

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread john
Saw this at some mobile event: http://www.vimeo.com/875097 2008/6/18 Ewan Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: W. B. Kranendonk wrote: --- On Mon, 6/16/08, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AVee wrote: (...) There are a lot of reasons why this is not feasible. Sorry. I tend to agree,

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-18 Thread Dave O'Connor
Ok, I just got this email twice. Something's definitely funky with the mailing list software. Someone asked to be notified if that happened again. Cheers Dave On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, john wrote: Saw this at some mobile event: http://www.vimeo.com/875097 2008/6/18 Ewan Marshall [EMAIL

bluetooth proximity

2008-06-16 Thread W. B. Kranendonk
Hi List, I wondered, can two bluetooth devices ping each other and find out their distance or relative speeds? Not in the first place as some security tag to unlock my PC or house, but to use in a game-like setting. Imagine some live role playing game, where weapons not only are simulated

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-16 Thread Georg Michelitsch
W. B. Kranendonk wrote on 06/16/2008 12:24 PM: Hi List, I wondered, can two bluetooth devices ping each other and find out their distance or relative speeds? Not in the first place as some security tag to unlock my PC or house, but to use in a game-like setting. Imagine some live role

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-16 Thread David Kepplinger
Hi, I don't think that's feasible. To measure (with 2 devices) you need two very synchronous clocks and a very exact measurement. Because the signal travels with approximately the speed of light (about 300.000 km/s), an error of 1µs is an error of 300m. There are a lot of reasons why this is not

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-16 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:24:27 +0200, W. B. Kranendonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wondered, can two bluetooth devices ping each other and find out their distance or relative speeds? Not that I know of, but two cooperating Freerunners can exchange information about their GPS coordinates and

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-16 Thread Tilman Baumann
W. B. Kranendonk wrote: Hi List, I wondered, can two bluetooth devices ping each other and find out their distance or relative speeds? Very unlikely. But some bluetooth devices can tell you the signal level of any peer. With that, you could aproximate the distance. Would be interesting if

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-16 Thread AVee
On Monday 16 June 2008 14:40, David Kepplinger wrote: Hi, I don't think that's feasible. To measure (with 2 devices) you need two very synchronous clocks and a very exact measurement. Because the signal travels with approximately the speed of light (about 300.000 km/s), an error of 1µs is an

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-16 Thread Peter Nijs
One can also measure the signal strength. I don't know how accurate that is. KDE has a tool that locks the desktop if you (and your bluetooth phone ofcourse) are to far away. Peter Op Monday 16 June 2008 15:59:45 schreef Alexey Feldgendler: On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:24:27 +0200, W. B.

Re: bluetooth proximity

2008-06-16 Thread Tilman Baumann
AVee wrote: On Monday 16 June 2008 14:40, David Kepplinger wrote: Hi, I don't think that's feasible. To measure (with 2 devices) you need two very synchronous clocks and a very exact measurement. Because the signal travels with approximately the speed of light (about 300.000 km/s), an error