Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-26 Thread vivek khurana
On 7/25/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um... That doesn't seem to get Gmail to thread the messages at all. You're solution is Just don't use Gmail. Duh!. That's not a valid answer to my question. Before you suggest it, the following is also an invalid response: use Outlook or

Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-26 Thread Ortwin Regel
You are talking about flat, web forum style threading, though. What he wants is tree style threading like in the ML archives, Slashdot comments etc. Ortwin On 7/26/07, vivek khurana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/25/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um... That doesn't seem to get Gmail

Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-26 Thread ramsesoriginal
Ehrm.. try looking at the settings, maybe you habe simply deactivated it. Because for me it works pretty fine with the threated view. oh, yes, and by the way, the possibility to format text and include images/links/wathever would be really good for the average user. On 7/25/07, Steven ** [EMAIL

Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread Sebastian Krause
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not trying to prove something -- trying to give benefit of long experience in similar situations. Email is substantially more efficient, because it is intrinsically more powerful. For example: 8) Staying in touch directly with the community from my OpenMoko phone in

Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread Ortwin Regel
On the other hand, via email you load everything while on a forum you choose what to view. The screen size argument also doesn't work too well as the Neo has 640*480 which is plenty and an official forum would obviously make sure to fit well into that resolution. How about continuing the

Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread ramsesoriginal
On 7/25/07, Sebastian Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not trying to prove something -- trying to give benefit of long experience in similar situations. Email is substantially more efficient, because it is intrinsically more powerful. For example: 8) Staying in

Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread Sebastian Krause
ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -E-mail: loading hunderts of e-mails with questions that have been discuted at least 300 times and hunderts of flaming e-mails, and maybe dozends of i need this and that app e-mails, just to see that there's no kews in the development of the

Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread ramsesoriginal
On 7/25/07, Sebastian Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -E-mail: loading hunderts of e-mails with questions that have been discuted at least 300 times and hunderts of flaming e-mails, and maybe dozends of i need this and that app e-mails, just to see

AW: Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
with UMTS speeds. Andreas -- Ursprüngl. Mitteil. -- Betreff:Re: email vs forum Von:ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: 25.07.2007 13:44 On 7/25/07, Sebastian Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -E-mail: loading hunderts of e-mails

Re: Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread Nkoli
On 7/25/07, Andreas Kostyrka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The average customer won't wait for the few simple web clicks, at least not on a device that has only a GPRS connection. The Nokia E61 browser has a nice KB counter and it's incredible how huge current web sites have gotten. (and there is

Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-25 Thread Steven **
I've been mostly silent in this discussion (partially because it's taken me two days to catch up on it), but I have some thoughts/questions. The gist of the argument for email seems to be: 1. You can download all the messages and view them offline 2. Standalone email clients group messages by

Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-25 Thread vivek khurana
On 7/25/07, Steven ** [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, my questions: 1. Is there a way to get Gmail to thread the messages based on who it was in response to? Yup, admins can set archiving at www.gmane.org. This way you will have archiving as well as threaded view regards VK

Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-25 Thread Steven **
Um... That doesn't seem to get Gmail to thread the messages at all. You're solution is Just don't use Gmail. Duh!. That's not a valid answer to my question. Before you suggest it, the following is also an invalid response: use Outlook or Thunderbird and download all your messages via POP. I

RE: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread John Seghers
Ortwin Regel wrote: The screen size argument also doesn't work too well as the Neo has 640*480 which is plenty and an official forum would obviously make sure to fit well into that resolution. I'm sure it will fit well...but will you actually be able to read it without a magnifying glass?

RE: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread John Seghers
Giles Jones wrote: On 25 Jul 2007, at 23:09, John Seghers wrote: I'm sure it will fit well...but will you actually be able to read it without a magnifying glass? Having owned a VGA PDA with similar screen size I can say that the resolution helps with readability. Hopefully with

Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread Ian Stirling
John Seghers wrote: Ortwin Regel wrote: The screen size argument also doesn't work too well as the Neo has 640*480 which is plenty and an official forum would obviously make sure to fit well into that resolution. I'm sure it will fit well...but will you actually be able to read it

Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread Knight Walker
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 03:39:08PM +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: nice. And now explain this to your Grandmother. Because as Einstein said: you have only understood something whe you can explain it to your grandmother. For you it's easy to say that you simply have to use IMAP, but the average

Re: email vs forum

2007-07-25 Thread Giles Jones
On 25 Jul 2007, at 23:09, John Seghers wrote: ficial forum would obviously make sure to fit well into that resolution. I'm sure it will fit well...but will you actually be able to read it without a magnifying glass? Having owned a VGA PDA with similar screen size I can say that the

email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-24 Thread kent
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 10:45:32AM -0700, Daniel Robinson wrote: The fact that you are subscribed to 20 different mailing lists and you would find it difficult to read all of that information on 20 different forum's is your issue, and it is not the responsibility of this community to address.

Re: email vs forum (was Re: OK, the forum is coming..)

2007-07-24 Thread Jeff Rush
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, then, why not have forums for people who want them, and leave email for people who don't want them? The thing is, it doesn't work very well in practice. If experience is any guide, then the technically knowledgable people will use email, and won't waste