On 1/24/07, Renaissance Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
He said what? Christ, give me Richard Stallman any day.
Renaissance Man
On 24 Jan 2007, at 1:03 am, Marcus Bauer wrote:
> Linus Torvalds once jokingly said: "I am your god".
Here's my understanding of this comment, to clear things up: t
ha ha, I did mean to send it to the list... thanks!
On 1/26/07, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Salve Jeff!
Was it your intention to answer me private and not to the list, too?
Don't get me to seriously, my English is not perfect,
so I'm not good in making jokes in English :))
yo
One point:
> > If you feel allowing proprietary, closed software in hurts the 'free
> > your phone' spirit, and the market place is closed to them, it only
> > hurts the amount of applications available for the phone.
>
> The amount of applications available for the phone is not the goal;
> the
Marcus, I don't know what the problem is but I think you need to take
some time and think about some things.
Nothing good comes of a rushed release. This is a flagship product, it
needs to be heavily refined and rock solid or the public won't keep
interest. This is not designed to JUST be a devel
WAP 2.0 supports XHTML-Basic and XHTML-Mobile Profile, so use a XHTML
browser instead...
Old WML is dead!
2007/1/26, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Salve!
In Germany is the using of wap pages quite expensive¹
and unpopulare (You better by a news paper then reading
some wap pages) and I wou
On Jan 26, 2007, at 11:07 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
Listen, there's nobody on this list that wishes we'd had this phone
out in
January more than I. But delays happen. You can't seriously be
calling us
liars now are you?
Haven been working on a wireless device my self for the past few
m
I'm sorry to stick my nose into this possible bees-nest.
But I feel I have to object a little here.
On 1/26/07, Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 26/01/07, Richard Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The point I bring from this is that if, for instance, TomTom has
> mapping software t
Greetings Rob and Sean,
Thank you for welcoming me to the community! I have played catch
up on the discussions going on here and it is very lively and
interesting. I am now very excited about OpenMoko! I can well
understand the excitement and desire to get ones hands on this phone
Salve Peter!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Peter A Trotter wrote:
> It's clear the technology is available to make this possible without any
> crude hacks. We need to make friends with the carriers in so many ways to
> make this project fly.
Why? The Neo1973 could become the voice mailbox in most of the
Le vendredi 26 janvier 2007 à 19:21 +0100, Harald Welte a écrit :
> Hi!
>
> It is my pleaasure to announce two new resources of the OpenMoko
> project:
Thanks for taking the time to setup these two new resources.
Rodolphe
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> Example. Instead of a calendar app just muting the phone when in a
> meeting (nice feature) it would activate a profile (maybe "silent" or
> "meeting"). Other apps could also use those profiles. For instance a
> GPS location aware app could know to use the same "silent" or "meeting"
> profile
Only because it says so, right there in the US Constitution: Congress is
granted the right to enact statutes "To promote the Progress of Science and
useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the
exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
As I said, it
>It may seem obvious to you that copyright law is about protecting
>authors...
Only because it says so, right there in the US Constitution: Congress is
granted the right to enact statutes "To promote the Progress of Science and
useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors
Side note final release 9/11 Isn't that a poorly chosen date...
Whatever You do it will
piss someone off.
...Dons flame retardent suit...
We can't let terror rule our lives
...Flees stage left...
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On 1/26/07 10:47 AM, "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Your argument may be 'but every software for the phone really should
>> be free - people will write it'. However, if someone hasn't come up
>> with an absolutely free, modifiable mapping software, I should just be
>> able to ge
On 1/26/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Copyright law has _always_ been about protecting authors, i.e. creators,
from the undesirable economics effects of uncontrolled copying of their
work. Period.
It may seem obvious to you that copyright law is about protecting
authors, b
I don't agree with his email tone either and neither will he speed up
release of the product. His email was rude and abusive, yes. But him
an idiot, no.
-david
David Schlesinger wrote:
>
> >He's not an idiot, he's just being bluntly vocal.
>
> Sorry, David, _I'm_ "bluntly vocal", that was simpl
It's clear the technology is available to make this possible without any
crude hacks. We need to make friends with the carriers in so many ways to
make this project fly. This is just one aspect - albeit a very cool one!
Thanks for the link Jesse.
-Pete
On 26/01/07, Jesse Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 10:16 -0700, Richi Plana wrote:
I've been working with Linux for such a long time and I'm not sure what
> that VPN client is. Truth is, though most popular network devices
> (Cisco, etc.) use VPN that Linux supports, it's Microsoft's VPN system
> that's most prevalent in the c
>He's not an idiot, he's just being bluntly vocal.
Sorry, David, _I'm_ "bluntly vocal", that was simply abusive.
There's a difference, but I've never known either one to speed up a hardware
platform project.
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On 1/26/07, Paul Wouters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote:
> So I sincerely doubt that OpenMoko would ever actively support
> proprietary applications (e.g. by DRM hooks). We certainly cannot do
> anything against them, though.
GPLv3?
The GPLv3 does nothing
On 1/26/07 11:01 AM, "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> If it's not the author's wish that the software be freely
>> copy-able, which is certainly a desire the author's quite
>> entitled to have
>
> I am less certain, and judging from most people's actions, I think you
> are in qui
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:18, Steven Milburn wrote:
Wow, I can't believe I got that backwards, thanks for the correction.
Kind of embarrassing considering I actually work on this stuff.
However, it doesn't invalidate that you don't need any more information
than the accelerometer and a starting
Salve Richi!
Good point!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Richi Plana wrote:
> And with that, let me state that I think it important to use Figures of
> Speech as little as possible in these mailing list. For one thing, many
> of the members of these lists don't have English as their primary
> language (I kn
On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 22:04 +0100, Ortwin Regel wrote:
> I like open source and stuff but some things, especially games, are
> closed in many cases. What are the possibilities for selling closed
> software for OpenMoko devices? Will there be a central online
> marketplace? What about DRM, is there
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 13:40 -0500, Steven Milburn wrote:
> Sean: I think you missed the sarcastic hyperbole that Marcus was
> attempting to use. He was basically saying that calling you liars
> would be about as wrong as assuming since he didn't reply, he must not
> have read a post. It's a weak
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Harald Welte wrote:
> So I sincerely doubt that OpenMoko would ever actively support
> proprietary applications (e.g. by DRM hooks). We certainly cannot do
> anything against them, though.
GPLv3?
Paul
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On 1/26/07 10:33 AM, "Dave Crossland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The original point was: It doesn't make sense to equate copying
> digital information with stealing physical objects.
No...? If you were to come into possession tomorrow of a copy of the
yet-to-be-published seventh Harry Potter
First: I understand if all developers are busy right now... But after
February 11...
Can we get a release of a kernel and disc image for qemu, and the
repository so we can update our image. Then we can explore the
environment, test not only our software, but our ipkg packaging. Hack
not on
FBReader have GTK+ and Qt interface. I made some modification to make it not
look alien on Motorola EZX platform. EZX base on Qte with different look and
feel. I think still need some work to make it smooth integrated to OpenMoko
platform.
---Pesan Asli---
Dari:Marcin Juszkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECT
The actual point was a different one: there is no reason to shy away
just because it is not perfect yet.
Actually, there is. Studys have shown that in relation to the Bazzar
software development model that even though "release early, release
often" helps at some point, most successfull projects
Alexandru Lazar writes:
>> I've been working with Linux for such a long time and I'm not sure what
>> that VPN client is. Truth is, though most popular network devices
>> (Cisco, etc.) use VPN that Linux supports, it's Microsoft's VPN system
>> that's most prevalent in the companies I've encountere
On 26/01/07, David Schlesinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
See whether you get charged with something like theft (or
infringement of copyright, which is tantamount to theft...)
Infringement of copyright is very, very different to theft.
>If I shoplift some food from my local
>store, no one
Steven Milburn wrote:
> Wow, I can't believe I got that backwards, thanks for the correction.
> Kind of embarrassing considering I actually work on this stuff.
> However, it doesn't invalidate that you don't need any more
> information than the accelerometer and a starting point in order to
> tra
Salve Jesse!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Jesse Ross wrote:
> There was some mention on this list a while ago about an iPhone-style
> Visual Voicemail system.
I wouldn't mention apple as refference for this idea -
apple like to claim patents for solutions and like to sue...
> The following service cou
I've been working with Linux for such a long time and I'm not sure what
that VPN client is. Truth is, though most popular network devices
(Cisco, etc.) use VPN that Linux supports, it's Microsoft's VPN system
that's most prevalent in the companies I've encountered. Does anyone
know which VPN syste
Dnia piątek, 26 stycznia 2007 19:24, Marcus Bauer napisał:
> But if you can produce enough phones, than let all the early adopters
> have them, whether they are developers or not.
In projects like this it is normal to write that phones in Phase 0/1 are
target to developers. It is other way to sa
- Forwarded message --
From: Gabriel Ambuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:13:49 +0100
Subject: Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer
On Friday 26 January 2007 18:41:50 Tim Newsom wrote:
> > yes, accelerometers measure acce
>Grey areas.
Actually, I don't think it's grey at all. The decision maker, as far as how a
work can be published and/or sold, is the copyright holder.
Copyright is the _right_ to _copy_. If you're not the copyright holder, and you
haven't been granted a right to copy by the copyright holder, th
He's not an idiot, he's just being bluntly vocal. I sense his
frustration with not having the device and his concern that others will
get to market first and stealing the 'community made' thunder and of
course in financial speak, the market share.
We all want toys and I'm sure OM is itching at th
On 26/01/07, Richard Boehme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The point I bring from this is that if, for instance, TomTom has
mapping software that I want to use, I shouldn't have to jump through
hoops to get it. I should just be able to go into the market place, go
to 'Non-Free Software', and buy the
Tim Newsom wrote:
> Ok Steve. I grant you that the first derivative of acceleration is
> velocity... How do you propose to gain any velocity information when
> the acceleration measured is zero as would be the case if you are at a
> constant velocity? This is why I am saying you would need some b
-- Forwarded message --
From: Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:37:39 +0800
Subject: Re: Developers phone also fit for early adopters?
On 1/26/07 9:40 AM, "Marcus Bauer" <[
On 26/01/07, Jonathon Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I really hate to get in on this discussion
Talking about freedom is important, so thank you for your polite and
rational contribution.
Dave Crossland wrote:
> But when I copy software, no one loses it and another person gets it.
> There'
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:37 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> Listen, there's nobody on this list that wishes we'd had this phone out in
> January more than I. But delays happen. You can't seriously be calling us
> liars now are you?
Gosh no, that would be nonsense!
However I'm sure I'm not the o
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:28:19AM +0600, Mikhail Gusarov wrote:
> HW> This is a mailinglist dedicated to OpenMoko development. From
> HW> developers, for developers, by developers.
>
> Could you explain a bit: is it mailing list for discussing development
> of OpenMoko itself only or also for
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:35 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> Marcus, these kind of comments are not constructive at all. Mickey is a core
> member of OpenMoko and is doing an amazing job. You haven't even seen the
> work he's done and you're already bashing us?
I honestly believe that OpenEmbedded
Twas brillig at 19:21:15 26.01.2007 UTC+01 when Harald Welte did gyre and
gimble:
HW> 2) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HW> This is a mailinglist dedicated to OpenMoko development. From
HW> developers, for developers, by developers.
Could you explain a bit: is it mailing list for discussing development
Hi!
It is my pleaasure to announce two new resources of the OpenMoko
project:
1) planet.openmoko.org
See: http://planet.openmoko.org/
This is a PlanetPlanet RSS feed aggregator of blogs and journals by
both official OpenMoko developers, and people in the comunity working
on OpenMoko related pr
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:04:54PM +0100, Ortwin Regel wrote:
> What about DRM, is there a way to bind a program to a sync ID like
> it's usually done with PalmOS or to a device ID? (It should be
> possible to bind it to an SD card ID, right?)
While I'm not in charge of marketing or strategic dec
On Friday 26 January 2007 18:41:50 Tim Newsom wrote:
> > yes, accelerometers measure acceleration. The first derivative of
> > acceleration is velocity.
> Ok Steve. I grant you that the first derivative of acceleration is
> velocity...
I don't think so. The first derivative of VELOCITY is ac
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:51 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
> >> Linux Organisation membership and organisation politics is not my
> >> business, but from the linux-user point of view it is a little
> >> confusing that OpenMoko/Neo1973 isn't mentioned here:
> >> http://old.linux-foundation.org/lab_ac
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From: Dave Crossland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26-Jan-2007 18:06
Subject: Re: Possibilities for commercial software?
To: Peter A Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(offlist)
On 26/01/07, Peter A Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
proprietary software. If you w
>> Not too confusing. It's not a recent page, and the information on there was
>> provided by members (of which FIC is not currently one, although we've
>> invited
>> them to participate...)
>
>Please don't take this a meaning anything other than we have zero free time
Oh, believe me, I understan
In summary: ignore the trolls and
keep doing what you're doing.
Indeed. Ditto!
Hank
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On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 09:41 -0800, Tim Newsom wrote:
> Ok Steve. I grant you that the first derivative of acceleration is
> velocity... How do you propose to gain any velocity information when the
> acceleration measured is zero as would be the case if you are at a
> constant velocity? This is
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 10:58 -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote:Dave Crossland
wrote:
> But when I copy software, no one loses it and another person gets it.
> There's no ethical problem.
>
> Sorry Dave, but you are wrong. There IS an ethical problem. Just
> because you CAN do something doesn't mean tha
Sean please just ignore idiots like this. The rest of us know
you're doing the best job you can and want to see the phone out
ASAP just as much as we do. In summary: ignore the trolls and
keep doing what you're doing.
--pj
On Saturday, Jan 27, 2007, Sean Moss-Pultz writes:
>On 1/26/07 9:40 A
On 1/27/07 12:57 AM, "David Schlesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> Linux Organisation membership and organisation politics is not my
>> business, but from the linux-user point of view it is a little
>> confusing that OpenMoko/Neo1973 isn't mentioned here:
>> http://old.linux-foundation.org/lab
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 9:12, Steven Milburn wrote:
yes, accelerometers measure acceleration. The first derivative of
acceleration is velocity. Granted errors in the accelerometer compound
when deriving velocity, but you've usually got GPS information to
calibrate against (As Jeff was saying).
Salve Gervais!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Gervais Mulongoy wrote:
> I have to admit that I kind of agree with Marcus, especially in terms of
> leveraging the free marketing that will happen from an early release.
But please not with a buggy hardware...
> But in order to do this properly, we need to b
On 1/26/07 9:40 AM, "Marcus Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The fact that I didn't answer to that mail doesn't mean I didn't read
> it. Should I now say you obviously didn't follow your own annoucements
> and didn't read the topic you set on IRC because you said the phone
> would come out in J
On 1/26/07, Crane, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I mentioned this in another thread too, but a usb->svga adapter with
bluetooth, audio, the CAN or other car electronic interface would make a
sophisticated docking station that the Neo would be plugged into when
driving. Another application
On 1/26/07 8:47 AM, "Marcus Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just get the shit out and stop talking about September. Get the brain
> share into it - nobody will mind if you keep doing the decisions.
Can we please keep this list civilized?
> This is a great opportunity for Linux/Open Source
There was some mention on this list a while ago about an iPhone-style
Visual Voicemail system. The following service could be a really good
replacement, if your carrier supports it:
CallWave: http://www.callwave.com/
Discovered via: http://www.therawfeed.com/2007/01/why-wait-for-iphone-
vis
On 1/26/07 5:39 AM, "Mary Stovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The OpenMoko appeals to me because it is innovative and cool
> looking. Also, I am tired of having to replace my phone...I have 5
> right now that are useless. I want a phone that can update and add
> applications that I want.
>But copying isn't stealing.
Sure it is, or at least it can be. Make a hundred copies of Stephen King's
latest book and try to give them all away in front of your local major
bookstore. See whether you get charged with something like theft (or
infringement of copyright, which is tantamount to t
I mentioned this in another thread too, but a usb->svga adapter with
bluetooth, audio, the CAN or other car electronic interface would make a
sophisticated docking station that the Neo would be plugged into when
driving. Another application that follows would be to use the GPS
combined with a blu
>> Two guys I know invested time into porting their game from PalmOS to
>> phones. It didn't sell at all but was pirated quite a lot.
>
>Proprietary software developers often refer to unauthorised copying as
>"piracy."
>
>This terms implies that copying is ethically equivalent to attacking
>ships o
>Linux Organisation membership and organisation politics is not my
>business, but from the linux-user point of view it is a little
>confusing that OpenMoko/Neo1973 isn't mentioned here:
>http://old.linux-foundation.org/lab_activities/mobile_linux/mli
Not too confusing. It's not a recent page, and
This should be put on the Wiki under Advocacy (or similar):
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 09:16 +, Andrew Loughran wrote:
> If anyone needs examples of how phones connect behind ones back, I can
> provide a fair few.
>
> I had the O2 XDA Orbit. It looks like a smashing phone, but the software on
>
Am Freitag, 26. Januar 2007 17:51 schrieb Michele Manzato:
>
> So, either the Neo is in network range (USB cable or via the Bluetooth
> bridge, until we have WiFi) or there is no other choice and download them
> via GPRS.
>
There is a "choice" to use the data in 50bps stream, like all
other autonom
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 09:00 -0500, Duncan Hudson wrote:
> I'm sure that this has been discussed, but there will be a VPN client
> pre-installed right? I know it's open source and I'm free to put what I
> want but don't you think there should be a pre-installed client that is
> certified to work
The point I bring from this is that if, for instance, TomTom has
mapping software that I want to use, I shouldn't have to jump through
hoops to get it. I should just be able to go into the market place, go
to 'Non-Free Software', and buy the TomTom app.
Your argument may be 'but every software fo
Salve!
In Germany is the using of wap pages quite expensive¹
and unpopulare (You better by a news paper then reading
some wap pages) and I would use elinks on my server
remotly instead of using a wap proxy, but I think a
wap browser would be interesting for some user :)
With atp-cache search and
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 11:06 -0500, Andrew Turner wrote:
> On 1/26/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As a side note... In the US and probably other countries there is a
> > standard for the interface to the car computer. From that interface you
> > can get the vehicle speed and diagnost
We also need to take into account that accelerometers measure
acceleration. If you accelerating or decelerating it will be able to
tell you the magnitude of the force and you can time the duration to
find the distance traveled. However, suppose that you are moving at a
constant velocity, the a
I really hate to get in on this discussion, but a few points were made
that should be brought to light.
Peter A Trotter wrote:
The market place should be so simple to use that is always the easiest
and quickest place for average users to get hold of apps.
Bingo. People will pay for software/digi
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 10:22 -0500, Gervais Mulongoy wrote:
> Applications get written over and over again because people are not
> satisfied with the way things are.
Well, it's not actually that simple. There are actually quite a few
reasons. NIH being one of the most irritating. But even if it wa
> One thing that we should look into is to have something like
> an RSS Feed of that data, which can be downloaded everytime
> we have a cheap (bluetooth, usbnet) IP connectivity. Then
> cache all that data locally.
As far as I understand: GPS ephemeris cannot be really "cached" in the Neo
give
I have to admit that I kind of agree with Marcus, especially in terms of
leveraging the free marketing that will happen from an early release.
But in order to do this properly, we need to better organize the OpenMoko
support infrastructure.
Support will be required for:
* Hardware issues
* Core
Can I call you a 'pirate' if you do share his fridge?
Joking aside I think that you may have missed the point here. When I write
an app for OpenMoko _if_ I decided to ask for money for that app I'm the
sort of guy who wouldn't mind if someone else shared it with friends,
modified the code etc. Ho
You're speaking of OBD or CAN.
There are some good interfaces out there, though the auto companies
try to protect their information. It would be neat to build a
plotter/scanner interface for measuring the car sensors on the Neo
using either bluetooth or serial/usb.
Bluetooth OBD scanner:
http:
One thing that should be developed is a unified profile manager (and
well defined API). With all of the application possibilities, there are
going to be several programs that will take action based on (location,
time, schedule, whatever). One of the most frustrating things is to
have several diff
On 25/01/07, Ketut P. Kumajaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have ported FBReader for Motorola E680i/A780 mobile phone and
I am sure FBReader author only need a couple hour time to make
it run on OpenMoko if he has access to OpenMoko device.
http://only.mawhrin.net/fbreader
I can't see a way to
On 26/01/07, Dean Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dave, whilst all software is free - rent isn't (oh and that nasty habit
of eating every 6-8 hours is a real bitch as well).
Of course there will be commercial software available for the OpenMoko
community.
If this is commercial free software,
On 1/26/07, Tim Newsom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
As a side note... In the US and probably other countries there is a
standard for the interface to the car computer. From that interface you
can get the vehicle speed and diagnostic information about how the
engine is running. It might be interes
Dave, whilst all software is free - rent isn't (oh and that nasty habit
of eating every 6-8 hours is a real bitch as well).
Of course there will be commercial software available for the OpenMoko
community.
And once a developer puts a price on an application, should you 'share'
or 'unauthorise copy
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:12, Jeff Andros wrote:
as I understand it, you can get more value out of the accellerometer
than that
in the simplest case, we know a gps can be off by a certain percent.
say you leave the phone still for a long time, you could average the
error and get more precise o
On 26/01/07, Ortwin Regel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Two guys I know invested time into porting their game from PalmOS to
phones. It didn't sell at all but was pirated quite a lot.
Proprietary software developers often refer to unauthorised copying as
"piracy."
This terms implies that copying
There is no management in a company of one or two people.
Two guys I know invested time into porting their game from PalmOS to
phones. It didn't sell at all but was pirated quite a lot. Indeed, it
was not about the DRM in this case: There was some variation of it and
it was easily cracked. The pro
Ketut P. Kumajaya writes:
>I have ported FBReader for Motorola E680i/A780 mobile phone and I am sure
>FBReader author only need a couple hour time to make it run on OpenMoko if he
>has access to OpenMoko device.
>
>http://only.mawhrin.net/fbreader
One more app I want, which I can tick off the li
Hello Richi,
Applications get written over and over again because people are not
satisfied with the way things are. But that's not even the point. What I
would like to know is if any one has managed to get Maemo working on
anything other than a Nokia? Because if they have, how hard do you think i
Salve Duncan,* !
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Duncan Hudson wrote:
> I'm sure that this has been discussed, but there will be a VPN client
> pre-installed right?
For the devices of 11-FEB and 11-March it isn't important what
is pre-installed and what not and till 11-Sep it will be *much*
time to port
Welcome!
The answer to your question is Yes. If you want more specific information,
please read the following resources for the technical how-to; it's all out
there.
To search the mailing list:
In your favorite search engine:
site:lists.openmoko.org [keyword(s)]
2007 Neo1973 Roadma
Try google like this:
'keyword site:http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community'
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Salve David!
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, David Schlesinger wrote:
>
> ACCESS is a participating member of both OSDL's Mobile Linux Initiative and
> of the Linux Phone Standards Forum--I'm acting chair of the MLI Steering
> Committee and vice-chair of LiPS' Architectural Working Group--and we've
> con
Hi all!
Sorry, if I'm breaking some rules. I didn't find how to search
maillists...so...
Will I be able to run my linux programs on OpenMoko? After recompilation, of
course.
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On Friday 26 January 2007 09:31:18 Richi Plana wrote:
> True that. I can't think of an application right now for 11n on a phone.
> But then again, someone said 640KB of RAM was sufficient for the
> desktop. :)
Sure, but unlike with DOS, there's nothing stopping the devs from adding N
when we need
On 1/26/07, Tehn Yit Chin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This is a very interesting thread, it almost qualify as a very
primitive market report for OpenMoko. :-)
Great to hear that people are enjoying this thread. It seemed like a
new direction I hadn't heard discussed before.
For me personally,
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