Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiktionary Re: Translators needed?

2007-02-01 Thread Marnix Klooster
Op 31-01-07 15:22, Robert Michel schreef: Salve Engin! On Wed, 31 Jan 2007, Engin Erenturk wrote: In my opinion the translations must be done professionally for such a product like this. Instead of volunteers who are not professionals, volunteers who are professionals and volunteer who can p

Re: my 2 cents about Idea: ring tones and other non-software assets can be developed as CC content

2007-02-01 Thread Jon Phillips
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 21:45 +0300, Marc SERT wrote: > It's very pleasant to see this fireworks of ideas. > > can i add my feeling about usability of this device : > > think about impaired people like blind people: > > it will be very nice to help them to discover the virtual keyboard by for

Re: Tinymail on it?

2007-02-01 Thread Jon Phillips
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 01:56 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > I already asked it to some internal E-mail address, the reaction back > then was positive but no real certainties. > > Is there interest from the OpenMoko team for bringing tinymail to the > device? (http://tinymail.org) > > I've been re

Re: h.264 format is now open?

2007-02-01 Thread Bryce Leo
Yeah, for management. Actual Video decoding is done by a dedicated chip, Broadcom BCM2722. Good find. I guess i should have just checked wikipedia instead of googling would have gotten me much better information. I will however still bet $50 (first taker actually gets payout) that there will b

Re: Openmoko podcast

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer writes: >> I also never realized that FIC is not just some little startup >> That makes it a lot more likely that they will still be around for V2 to get >> released, and for V1 to actually work. > >I'm kind of surprised that FIC means so little to a lot of people I'm >talkin

Re: Openmoko podcast

2007-02-01 Thread Mary Stovel
Thanks Richard for the link. It is great hearing Mickey talking about the OpenMoko...very cool! ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Openmoko podcast

2007-02-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Richard Bennett wrote: > Busy doing night time coding to get our phone ready? > That's the spirit! ;o) Hehe, not quite, sorry. Actually I just came back from a concert and I need some time getting into sleep-mode ;) -- - Michael Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://openmoko.org/

Fwd: Re: Openmoko podcast

2007-02-01 Thread Richard Bennett
On Friday 02 February 2007 03:37, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > > I also never realized that FIC is not just some little startup > > That makes it a lot more likely that they will still be around for V2 to > > get released, and for V1 to actually work. > > I'm kind of surprised that FIC means so

Re: Openmoko podcast

2007-02-01 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
> I also never realized that FIC is not just some little startup > That makes it a lot more likely that they will still be around for V2 to get > released, and for V1 to actually work. I'm kind of surprised that FIC means so little to a lot of people I'm talking. FIC was well-known to be a manufac

Openmoko podcast

2007-02-01 Thread Richard Bennett
Hi, i didn't see this podcast mentioned here yet: http://www.lugradio.org/episodes/70 Lugradio have a typically disrespectful Openmoko (Yoko-Ono, Open-boner) review, and an interview with Mickey Lauer. I also never realized that FIC is not just some little startup, but actually the company orig

Re: idea: second SIM card support

2007-02-01 Thread Myk Melez
Myk Melez wrote: I'll add my thoughts to the wiki once it's back up (it seems to be down, or at least I can't reach it at the moment). Ok, I've added them to this page: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Ideas/DualSIMCardSupport -myk ___ Open

Re: Handy application ideas

2007-02-01 Thread Knight Walker
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:57:22AM +0100, Richard Bennett wrote: > Hi, > > There's 2 apps I think would be really usefull: > SMS Remote Control. > Allow the NEO user to record a 'macro', like 'Call number in > speaker-phone mode' , 'Beep loudly' or 'SMS my GPS coordinates to number xxx' > e

Handy application ideas

2007-02-01 Thread Richard Bennett
Hi, There's 2 apps I think would be really usefull: SMS Remote Control. Allow the NEO user to record a 'macro', like 'Call number in speaker-phone mode' , 'Beep loudly' or 'SMS my GPS coordinates to number xxx' etc (basically a shell script that could be created by selecting actions from a

Neo-Control-Center? Was: Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Fabian Off
Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2007 schrieben Sie, Andrew Turner: > > On 2/1/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > These are complementary. While I could use a range of GPS coordinates > > to recognize "I'm at home right now", I couldn't use it for "I'm in my > > car right now" or "my BT-enab

USB Recharger

2007-02-01 Thread Michael Welter
http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/index.html ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mark! On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, Heilpern, Mark wrote: > Watching things like tv's MythBusters defeat fingerprint sensors is > interesting and entertaining, but when you know they're using several > year old, out-dated technology for the sensors they evaluate, you might > suspect that there's mor

Re: Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Mary! On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, Mary Stovel wrote: > I can set up my voip service to forward calls to my cell (or any or > multiple numbers). Because my home phone calls are less expensive > than my cell calls...when I am at home, I would like my cell phone > calls to ring over to my hom

Re: Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Andrew Turner
On 2/1/07, Joe Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fabian Off writes: >Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2007 schrieb Andrew Turner: >> Well, could use something like Romeo (http://www.irowan.com/romeo/) to >> detect via BT when the Neo is nearby (useful for *all* kinds of things >> anyway). > >Why using

Re: Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Fabian Off writes: >Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2007 schrieb Andrew Turner: >> Well, could use something like Romeo (http://www.irowan.com/romeo/) to >> detect via BT when the Neo is nearby (useful for *all* kinds of things >> anyway). > >Why using unprecise bluetooth, when you have built-in gps?? >J

Re: Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Fabian Off
Am Donnerstag, 1. Februar 2007 schrieb Andrew Turner: > Well, could use something like Romeo (http://www.irowan.com/romeo/) to > detect via BT when the Neo is nearby (useful for *all* kinds of things > anyway). Why using unprecise bluetooth, when you have built-in gps?? Just set a range of coordin

Sink oullook calender?

2007-02-01 Thread Cathal O'Brien
Will I be able to sink my outlook calender at work to an openmoko phone or would this only work on some form of windows mobile phone? -- Cathal O'Brien ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/l

Re: Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Andrew Turner
Well, could use something like Romeo (http://www.irowan.com/romeo/) to detect via BT when the Neo is nearby (useful for *all* kinds of things anyway). When it is, route calls to my Skype/Gizmo # (bah land-lines!) :) On 2/1/07, Tomasz Zielinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/2/1, Mary Stovel

Re: Any alternative ideas to fullscreen popup-messages?

2007-02-01 Thread Jason Weathered
On 2007-02-01 22:09, Lars Hallberg wrote: > Harder problem... What to do when the screen is off and a phone call > comes in? Turning the screen on is OK, but I don't want the > touch-interface to go on in my pocket... so what to do that's not > completely awkward. See little choice but to use the

Possible Bluetooth to WiFi device

2007-02-01 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070201-8753.html "DAVE will be a small, portable hard drive that will use WiFi and Bluetooth to transfer media and other files between devices" ... " It will also be an open-source system, allowing third-party developers to write apps to

RE: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Rodolphe Ortalo
On technical grounds, different biometric sensors certainly exhibit variable resistance to tampering (or fooling in this case); however, a constant in this area for several years is the lack of information provided by manufacturers themselves concerning the limits of their devices's security. (Note

Re: Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2007/2/1, Mary Stovel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Just wondering if call forwarding from the Neo to another phone would be a possibility or desired. GSM network hadles it itself, if phone lack of redirection settings, you can "dial" magic code like *21*number# (i don't know if it's standarized) and

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-02-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 1 lutego 2007 16:22, Paul Jimenez napisał: > I think a good Jabber client could totally supplant MMS - it support > file transfers, which is all MMS really does (I think), as well as > things MMS never dreamed of like encryption and presence and etc. Jabber + GPG encryption == much

Wish list: Call Forwarding from Neo

2007-02-01 Thread Mary Stovel
Hey it is finally February :) Just wondering if call forwarding from the Neo to another phone would be a possibility or desired. Sorry if this has been discussed, but could not find it in the threads. I can set up my voip service to forward calls to my cell (or any or multiple numbers).

RE: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Dean Collins
No I meant to the MythBuster guys. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:community- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heilpern, Mark > Sen

RE: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Heilpern, Mark
Unfortunately I couldn't provide 100% open source on the driver or the application libraries. -Original Message- From: Dean Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:42 PM To: Heilpern, Mark; community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: RE: data encryption + Biometric

RE: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Dean Collins
Lol, Mark, want to send a device in for evaluation to the guys. I'm sure they would be up for it. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:c

Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Redvers Davies
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 10:32 -0700, Knight Walker wrote: > > > > http://www.projectblackdog.com/ > > Yeah. Too bad that company is going under. :) I actually have two of these and I love them. I lost faith in the company and they lost my support because I have yet to see them announce their com

RE: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Heilpern, Mark
There are many competing technologies behind fingerprint scanning and evaluation techniques, some which are rather weak and others which are quite strong. Forming opinions based on tests against a small subset of them is not exactly doing due dilligence. Watching things like tv's MythBusters defea

Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Ben! First it sounds a very smart idea to have biometric security, but sorry, when I give you some sceptical feedback. On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, Ben Burdette wrote: > Here are a couple of items for the phone wish list: data encryption and > biometric security. Biometric "security" wasn't di

Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Knight Walker
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:11:41AM -0700, Ben Burdette wrote: > Here are a couple of items for the phone wish list: data encryption and > biometric security. I'd like the phone to be a secure place for me to > store passwords and similar information. Are there plans to have some > security fe

A community site on open mobile devices in planning stages

2007-02-01 Thread Danijel Orsolic
Greetings everyone The ideas behind OpenMoko as well as the phone itself excite me. I believe this project and the community which is being gathered around it will indeed stir a new revolution in the mobile segment of the IT industry. Mobile devices are in a nutshell not much different from our

Re: WG: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-01 Thread Knight Walker
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 12:17:36PM +0100, denis wrote: > It's great that an implementation of LEDs is discussed. My problem with > flashing screens is the high amount of energy that it costs. At the moment I > have a SE S700i and I always have to turn the screen on in order to get to > know if ther

data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-01 Thread Ben Burdette
Here are a couple of items for the phone wish list: data encryption and biometric security. I'd like the phone to be a secure place for me to store passwords and similar information. Are there plans to have some security features like this, that would prevent someone from extracting secure d

Jabber & Push-to-talk

2007-02-01 Thread Mikko Rauhala
to, 2007-02-01 kello 09:22 -0600, Paul Jimenez kirjoitti: > I think a good Jabber client could totally supplant MMS - it support > file transfers, which is all MMS really does (I think), as well as > things MMS never dreamed of like encryption and presence and etc. Mmh. And come to think of it, pe

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-02-01 Thread Knight Walker
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:48:15AM -0600, Jonathon Suggs wrote: > That sounds very interesting. I very much like the concept and look > forward to seeing how it is implemented. Although it is an overall > travesty, Windows Mobile has a single messaging program that you can > configure all of your

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Jimenez
I think a good Jabber client could totally supplant MMS - it support file transfers, which is all MMS really does (I think), as well as things MMS never dreamed of like encryption and presence and etc. Putting a good mobile-UI on, say, Psi or one of the other open source Jabber clients shouldn't b

One general wish - let us make encryption as easy then possible!

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sean! Sean Moss-Pultz schrieb am Donnerstag, den 01. Februar 2007 um 19:28h: > > Well, you're not wrong, certainly: people use MMS even though it _is_ > > horribly > > broken (and expensive, etc.) I guess the point I'm attempting to make here > > is > > that in addition to the challenges

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-02-01 Thread Jonathon Suggs
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > Agreed. Really what I would like to see is one messages program that will > handle messages as (more or less) generic objects. I never understood why > every phone I had thinks that emails, SMS, and MMS are different animals. > > Even better, the type of message should be d

RE: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-02-01 Thread David Schlesinger
> it's just MMS hardly seems even compatible with itself. I never said it was _easy_. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've said, "If it was easy, _everybody'd_ do it." ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-02-01 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 2/1/07 10:06 AM, "David Schlesinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, you're not wrong, certainly: people use MMS even though it _is_ horribly > broken (and expensive, etc.) I guess the point I'm attempting to make here is > that in addition to the challenges in just getting a working phone o

Re: Please no crossposting! Re: Information regarding theMessaging Support in OpenMoko

2007-02-01 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 2/1/07 11:15 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: >> You might be right. But I personally feel that MMS is fundamentally >> flawed. Costs aside, it's just not the way I think media should be >> transferred. The benefits are just too low for the end user.

Re: Email Push Service :) smtp+dnotify+Asterisk+... :)

2007-02-01 Thread Redvers Davies
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 16:14 -0800, Elliot F. wrote: > The best point that Robert made in his original post was > that there are out of band methods of alerting the phone that a new > message is available (call from known number or SMS message.) As far as > I know, this is how current "push" ema

Re: Any alternative ideas to fullscreen popup-messages?

2007-02-01 Thread Lars Hallberg
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer skrev: Let's distinguish two types of popup-dialogs: a) informative (i.e. battery low, incoming sms, sms sent) b) confirmative ("Mickey calling. Answer / Ignore / Reject?", "Do you want to remove all contacts?") Right now, we're leaning towards (ab)using the bottom status

Re: [moved to community mailinglist]Re: ruby in openmoko

2007-02-01 Thread Andraž 'ruskie' Levstik
On 13:01:11 2007-02-01 "Andrew Turner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/1/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am a newbie to ruby. But heard that ruby is a programming > > > > language that can make life of a programmer a little bit > > > > comfortable. That's why I am star

11 Lanuages :) Re: Wikipedia update

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sergio! On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, Sergio Bessa wrote: > OpenMoko in Portuguese > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMoko Great! I have also seen that we have a finish version new as well! Was it your work, Janni-Matti? So that makes 11 languages now :))) Hey this is fun and shows how powerfull

Re: [moved to community mailinglist]Re: ruby in openmoko

2007-02-01 Thread Andrew Turner
On 2/1/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am a newbie to ruby. But heard that ruby is a programming language > > that can make life of a programmer a little bit comfortable. That's > > why I am starting to learn it. > Ruby 1.8.5 is in OpenEmbedded so it will probably be avail

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-01 Thread denis
>But for many reasons it is important to start whith an working device now (I don't want to restart a discussion about this, just as an explanaitions for Denis) and the Neo1973 will be much much more than I have dreamed about a hackable Linux phone for a long time!> I understand that! >Let us be

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve denis! denis schrieb am Donnerstag, den 01. Februar 2007 um 12:17h: > Salve rob! :) > > It's great that an implementation of LEDs is discussed. use google "site:openmoko.org LED" > My problem with flashing screens is the high amount of energy that > it costs. At the moment I have a SE

Re: [moved to community mailinglist]Re: ruby in openmoko

2007-02-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia czwartek, 1 lutego 2007 11:43, Robert Michel napisał: > On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I am new to this mailing list. I have not seen any email mentioning > > Ruby and Rails. > > I am a newbie to ruby. But heard that ruby is a programming language > > that can make life of

WG: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-01 Thread denis
Salve rob! :) It's great that an implementation of LEDs is discussed. My problem with flashing screens is the high amount of energy that it costs. At the moment I have a SE S700i and I always have to turn the screen on in order to get to know if there are messages or emails. And blinking only two

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve denis! denis schrieb am Donnerstag, den 01. Februar 2007 um 11:03h: > I searched the different hardware specs and archives of the mailing list but > didn't find any information if LEDs will be one part of the hardware. AFAIK the Neo1973 v1 will have no LEDs (beside the screen backlight and

[moved to community mailinglist]Re: ruby in openmoko

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Fred! Welcome to the OpenMoko community. :) On Thu, 01 Feb 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi All, > I am new to this mailing list. I have not seen any email mentioning Ruby and > Rails. > > Can anyone please forward old emails relating to ruby in openmoko? please use google with "sit

2-3 flavours ; ) Re: the power of defaults Re: Any alternative ideas to fullscreen popup-messages?

2007-02-01 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Bryan,Mickey,*! IMHO an important usergroup for OpenMoko/Neo1973 (in the beginning) will be *nix administrators, developers and maintainers. A comfortable ssh client will makes their smartphone to a mobile terminal - that the device is trustworthy is very important... They are used to use

Re: Openess of OpenMoko's Hardware

2007-02-01 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 19:41, Vinh wrote: > > So the question arises in how far other companies could pick up the > OpenMoko platform and port it for another hardware. Is the project > obliged to FIC in any way? There should be at least three ways to get phones with OpenMoko support in the

Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-01 Thread denis
I searched the different hardware specs and archives of the mailing list but didn't find any information if LEDs will be one part of the hardware. One of the most important things, from my point of view, talking abount a mobile phone is the possibility to get a "silent" alarm with the help of a LED

Re: Openess of OpenMoko's Hardware

2007-02-01 Thread Jeff Andros
Vinh, I really agree with you, personally I'm a fan of flip phones (I hate the idea of the screen being exposed... and it just seems easier to answer a phone by opening it than finding a little button). Early on, Sean set the goal of OpenMoko being a platform... that the neo is just the first of

Openess of OpenMoko's Hardware

2007-02-01 Thread Vinh
Hi everyone, seems like the mailing list is slowly taking off, having much more messages now than couple of months ago! Great stuff!! I was wondering how far OpenMoko itself is tied to the underlying hardware? OpenMoko gives us a great new way to write purely native software on an open platform.

Re: Email Push Service :) smtp+dnotify+Asterisk+... :)

2007-02-01 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 01 February 2007 01:14:28 Elliot F. wrote: > I realize we can't make unsolicited connections to the phone, but I > would disagree with the "we have to use a persistent connection" > statement. The best point that Robert made in his original post was > that there are out of band methods

Re: idea for Neo 2nd generation: Accelerometer

2007-02-01 Thread Ole Tange
On 1/31/07, kkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Another exemple of uses for an accelerometer: magnifier command set (enable only in the context of a picture viewer or web browser application). Look at http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/Ideas/3DViewport /Ole __