Neo1973 video (was Re: What would be a realistic but challenging level for Bryce announced trophy money for video playback on the Neo1973? Re: h.264 format is now open?)

2007-02-03 Thread Harald Welte
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 11:06:43PM +0200, Siarhei Siamashka wrote: On Friday 02 February 2007 12:31, Robert Michel wrote: Some video information given by Sean in november: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000340.html A few technical questions here. Is image

Re: AT commands (Re: But wich GSM chip? Re: AT commands document (Was: Fax modem? Fax software? Neo as T.38 gateway?))

2007-02-03 Thread Harald Welte
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:48:08AM +0200, Aloril wrote: Wild guess: some of vendor-specific, proprietary TI AT commands allow user to write/read GSM module flash. I do not think so ;) -- - Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/

Re: AT commands (Re: But wich GSM chip? Re: AT commands document (Was: Fax modem? Fax software? Neo as T.38 gateway?))

2007-02-03 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Harald! Harald Welte schrieb am Samstag, den 03. Februar 2007 um 14:49h: I put the list into the wiki - it would be fine to mark out which are not the optional ones and how to use them. So from this list, every contribution, commentation of this commands are welcome. For

Re: Q: How does USB hubs work? Re: Multiple USB Devices

2007-02-03 Thread Harald Welte
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 08:20:04AM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Robert Michel writes: Brilliant! Thanks for that :-) So now the question, how does an USB hub work? Can we plug in the host on any port? Short form: USB is strictly a hierarchical, tree-structured network. There is one

Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-03 Thread Harald Welte
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:11:41AM -0700, Ben Burdette wrote: Here are a couple of items for the phone wish list: data encryption and biometric security. data encryption will not be that much of a problem. There will not [yet] be a easy-to-use user interface, but we will have dm-crypt

Re: Encrypting voice comunications..

2007-02-03 Thread Harald Welte
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 07:13:12PM +0200, Mikko J Rauhala wrote: On pe, 2007-02-02 at 09:06 -0800, Tim Newsom wrote: If we have access to the mic and speakers while a call is in process, and we have the ability to record conversations etc... Where does the processor sit in that chain?

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-03 Thread Harald Welte
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 11:47:02AM +0100, Robert Michel wrote: Salve denis! denis schrieb am Donnerstag, den 01. Februar 2007 um 11:03h: I searched the different hardware specs and archives of the mailing list but didn't find any information if LEDs will be one part of the hardware.

[OT] Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-03 Thread Harald Welte
On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:45:55PM -0500, Heilpern, Mark wrote: Unfortunately I couldn't provide 100% open source on the driver or the application libraries. That's not the point. Just send your device[s] to the Berlin CCC (feel free to route it via me). A proprietary windows app for

OpenMoko with Apple?

2007-02-03 Thread Ryan Kline
I just wondered if anybody had any reason to think that the phone will not work as well with Macs as it does with PCs. I want one bad, It is February, right??? Thanks, Ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Encrypting voice comunications..

2007-02-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Mikko Rauhala wrote: pe, 2007-02-02 kello 09:54 -0800, Tim Newsom kirjoitti: So, though possibly inefficient, we could not some how take the analog audio stream, do some predictable and reversible encoding/encrypting then convert into sounds again.. Like doing base64 encoding for binary

Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Crane, Matthew wrote: With a point to point link what would be the minimal software stack needed? There's only so much CPU, might it be more appropriate to use a relatively lightweight process to rx/tx+encrypt/decrypt the data? In any case, the idea of an open encryption standard for cell

Re: Voice over GPRS?

2007-02-03 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: Even a really anemic processor can manage AES or whatever at 8Kbit/sec, in realtime. However, as a near-zero CPU option, you could always use one-time-pads from the SD. Key management is substantially more annoying - you need 3M or so of pad per

Re: Neo1973 video (was Re: What would be a realistic but challenging level for Bryce announced trophy money for video playback on the Neo1973? Re: h.264 format is now open?)

2007-02-03 Thread Mikko Rauhala
la, 2007-02-03 kello 14:47 +0100, Harald Welte kirjoitti: Also, the 770 has a landscape display. We have a portrait display. The S3C2410 cannot rotate the image, so you would have to rotate every frame in software, too! Modifying a player to render the image to be rotated in the first place

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-03 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Harald Welte wrote: I searched the different hardware specs and archives of the mailing list but didn't find any information if LEDs will be one part of the hardware. AFAIK the Neo1973 v1 will have no LEDs (beside the screen backlight and inside the touchscreen) This is true, no LED.

Re: music applications: piano, drum, bell...

2007-02-03 Thread Christopher Heiny
On Friday 02 February 2007 16:57, kkr scribbled in crayon on the back of a kid's menu: You're right, the first version will not be able of it. But in the V2 (2007-09-11), on the basis of this link (http://cs.nyu.edu/~jhan/ftirtouch/), I think that it will be possible :-) Quotation: Our

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-03 Thread denis
One LED would be enough for me. But it's worth adding it to the hardware. ;) It's right that 1 to 4 hardware buttons would be nice as well. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Joe Pfeiffer Gesendet: Samstag, 3. Februar 2007 18:50 An:

Re: [OT] Re: data encryption + Biometric security

2007-02-03 Thread Ian Stirling
Harald Welte wrote: On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 01:45:55PM -0500, Heilpern, Mark wrote: In any case, to get back to the Neo1973, or even future phones: I don't think that there are many sensors that fulfill the following criteria 1) full hardware docs (may be under NDA, but allowing GPL

Re: OpenMoko with Apple?

2007-02-03 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 09:09 -0600, Ryan Kline wrote: I just wondered if anybody had any reason to think that the phone will not work as well with Macs as it does with PCs. I want one bad, It is February, right??? Thanks, Ryan Well, if we stick to our dominant open standards, then I

IRC logs, anyone?

2007-02-03 Thread Marnix Klooster
On 02-02-07 18:13, Mikko J Rauhala wrote, in passing: as reported by LaF0rge on irc a while back I'm not an IRC guy, usually, but I like to browse IRC logs every once in a while. Are there IRC logs of #openmoko available anywhere? If not, is someone in a position to set this up? Thanks!

Re: OpenMoko with Apple?

2007-02-03 Thread Jeff Andros
our phone talks syncML... iSync talks syncML... there is no problem On 2/3/07, Jon Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 09:09 -0600, Ryan Kline wrote: I just wondered if anybody had any reason to think that the phone will not work as well with Macs as it does with PCs. I

Re: IRC logs, anyone?

2007-02-03 Thread pHilipp Zabel
On 2/3/07, Marnix Klooster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02-02-07 18:13, Mikko J Rauhala wrote, in passing: as reported by LaF0rge on irc a while back I'm not an IRC guy, usually, but I like to browse IRC logs every once in a while. Are there IRC logs of #openmoko available anywhere? If not,

Re: IRC logs, anyone?

2007-02-03 Thread Rod Whitby
Marnix Klooster wrote: I'm not an IRC guy, usually, but I like to browse IRC logs every once in a while. Are there IRC logs of #openmoko available anywhere? The NSLU2-Linux project (which I lead) is happy to provide both live and archived logs of #openmoko (and any other future OpenMoko

Re: Handy application ideas

2007-02-03 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2007/2/2, kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ...Because, I presume that the thief will do very quickly a hard reset. There is no such thing like restore to factory default in Neo1973. What you load to flash memory, will remain there. And I bet the silent alarm application will be very popular among

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-03 Thread michael
On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Harald Welte wrote: I searched the different hardware specs and archives of the mailing list but didn't find any information if LEDs will be one part of the hardware. AFAIK the Neo1973 v1 will have no LEDs (beside the screen backlight and

OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference

2007-02-03 Thread Jon Phillips
Heya, is anyone attending the Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference in San Francisco? And, if so, is it worthwhile? I guess if enough people are going, good to have an OpenMoko BOF. Some of us will have phones by then so could have mini-hack-fest...

Re: OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference

2007-02-03 Thread michael
GREAT idea. Whether or not we are attending the conference, enough of us live in the area that we should get together, if not at the conference then in a suitably friendly bar or restaurant. Perhaps we should find out when Sean is available, and see if we can work around that? Michael On Sat,

RE: OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference

2007-02-03 Thread David Schlesinger
I will be. (You're pointing to the ETEL 2006 pages. The 2007 npages start at http://wiki.oreillynet.com/etel2007/ and the Who's Attending page is at http://wiki.oreillynet.com/etel2007/index.cgi?PlanningtoAttend ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jon Phillips

Re: OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference

2007-02-03 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 16:27 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GREAT idea. Whether or not we are attending the conference, enough of us live in the area that we should get together, if not at the conference then in a suitably friendly bar or restaurant. Perhaps we should find out when Sean is

RE: OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference

2007-02-03 Thread David Schlesinger
Same here. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Sean Moss-Pultz Sent: Sat 2/3/2007 9:53 PM To: Jon Phillips Cc: community@lists.openmoko.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 16:45 -0800, Jon