Re: R: Camera and MMS

2007-02-16 Thread Andreas Kaeser
t3st3r wrote: Andreas Kaeser wrote: ... Well, as much as I would like a camera in my all-in-one gadget, it would be prohibitive for my every day use: in my working environment anything capable of picture recording is strictly disallowed. So I wouldn't be able to use Neo1973 :-( So what? Jailed

Google's summer of code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread wim delvaux
Since the NEO is open , perhaps submit some projects ? W ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: R: Camera and MMS

2007-02-16 Thread Mike Hodson
On 2/16/07, Andreas Kaeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course not. But you missed my point. I'm looking for a way to use the NEO It's a car manufacturer's development plant. You perhaps have missed the point so far: there IS NO CAMERA as of yet.. And, if you have been reading other forum

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 17:35 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nice writeups at linuxdevices and slashgear http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2657814070.html http://www.slashgear.com/openmoko-and-fic-neo1973-updates-153926.php Now that's more like it. I didn't like the the tone of the

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread Mike Hodson
On 2/16/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-02-15 at 17:35 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that's more like it. I didn't like the the tone of the other review much (engadget?). It would probably make for good publicity if we would monitor the comments posted in

RE: Google's summer of code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Dean Collins
Lol-might be a little hard without a platform to develop on (and no emulator) but the entries don't open until March so might make the cut. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -Original

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread Mike Hodson
On 2/16/07, Mike Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was about to post to gizmodo a few hours ago, thanks for reminding me :) Or not...considering I didn't realize their comment system was open to invitee's only. Bleh. closed comment pool = not worth my time reading any more. All hail

Re: given the OpenMoko Challenges...

2007-02-16 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Kenshin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... what are the chances of getting a camera? ^_^ I think one thing we should all bear in mind is that this is the first device, not the last. I imagine things will get better and better with successive models, if the product is compelling enough that it

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread Sander van Grieken
On Friday 16 February 2007 15:03:16 denis wrote: Are there some high definition photos of the Neo available ? It would be nice to have some high def. pictures in the wiki and in the articles. (in the especially for the basic users section, these need some eye candy ;) ) Regards, Denis

Re: Google's summer of code 2007

2007-02-16 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lol-might be a little hard without a platform to develop on (and no emulator) but the entries don't open until March so might make the cut. Fixing up QEMU to emulate the hardware well might be a fine SoC project. Perry

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
el jefe delito writes: Can anyone clarify: in the Linux Devices article it says that hardware was delayed and the Neo will be available for sale in March. I thought I recently read that the hardware was delayed and the phone will be available in September. Which is accurate, September right? Is

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
On 2/16/07, el jefe delito [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone clarify: in the Linux Devices article it says that hardware was delayed and the Neo will be available for sale in March. I thought I recently read that the hardware was delayed and the phone will be available in September. Which

Re: R: Camera and MMS

2007-02-16 Thread Andreas Kaeser
Mike Hodson wrote: On 2/16/07, Andreas Kaeser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course not. But you missed my point. I'm looking for a way to use the NEO It's a car manufacturer's development plant. You perhaps have missed the point so far: there IS NO CAMERA as of yet.. And, if you have been

Automatic Updates Notification for the Neo?

2007-02-16 Thread kkr
Would it be possible to have, as in Fedora Core 6, a kind of Automatic Updates Notification? In other words, when it's connected to Internet (USB or Bluetooth), it check the repository to determine if a new version (for any software inside: OS/core applications) is available. And if yes,

Re: New to the message board and have a couple questions...

2007-02-16 Thread Terence Haddock
Hi, There was some discussion about this in this thread: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003045.html This phone is an unblocked quad-band phone, so it can connect to any GSM carrier. The only issue with a pre-paid phone may be recharging the phone if the carrier

RE: New to the message board and have a couple questions...

2007-02-16 Thread Dean Collins
Hi Mike, GSM only so Cingular T-Mobile etc. Not Sprint Verizon etc. Yes if you can get a sim only pre-pay plan then yes. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial).

openmoko and pre-paid cards

2007-02-16 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
It may be too early to ask, but I'll try anyway. Does anyone know if those pay-as-you-go prepaid gsm services will allow you to use your own phone? I couldn't resist the lure of the $30 Motorola C139 package that Cingular was selling ($20 phone, $10 service PIN and SIM). I was hoping I'd be

Re: Automatic Updates Notification for the Neo?

2007-02-16 Thread Perry E. Metzger
kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would it be possible to have, as in Fedora Core 6, a kind of Automatic Updates Notification? Anything is possible -- but remember, this is an open source project. The things we really want, we, the community, may have to write. This can be far better than any

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread michael
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Mike Hodson wrote: On 2/16/07, Mike Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was about to post to gizmodo a few hours ago, thanks for reminding me :) Or not...considering I didn't realize their comment system was open to invitee's only. Bleh. closed comment pool = not worth

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread michael
On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, denis wrote: Krzysztof Kajkowski schrieb: 2007/2/16, denis [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are there some high definition photos of the Neo available ? It would be nice to have some high def. pictures in the wiki and in the articles.

Re: New to the message board and have a couple questions...

2007-02-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terry wrote: The only issue with a pre-paid phone may be recharging the phone if the carrier forces you to use some sort of custom on-screen interface to recharge it. It would be good to get reports of any problematic carriers after the initial phone is shipped! Has there been any discussion

Wifi again

2007-02-16 Thread Esra Kummer
So the Wifi will not be integrated in the first Neo 1973, but is there a chance for a hardware addon? Has someone some information about that? Cheers Esra ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: openmoko and pre-paid cards

2007-02-16 Thread Mary Stovel
Here is my recent experience. I had the same question as you so tried an experiment. I got the Motorola C139 with Cingular prepaid last week. I am in the U.S. I have a prepaid plan with T-mobile and a Nokia 6010 which I was able to unlock. I put the Cingular Sim into the now

Connect self-powered USB storage devices?

2007-02-16 Thread Steven **
So, I know the USB port is a mini and it's unpowered. But... Assuming there's a USB mini to full USB adapter, is there any reason you couldn't connect the Neo to a USB hard drive? Most (all) of the USB hard drives I've seen had a external power supply. On a related note, could an iPod be

Re: openmoko and pre-paid cards

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Mary Stovel writes: Cingular C139.) I asked at the Cingular store and the T-Mobile store... that if I brought in my own unlocked phone, could I get a SIM card without buying their phone... they said yes. I asked if that applied to the prepaid plans and they said yes. My experience here

Re: openmoko and pre-paid cards

2007-02-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm going to chime in here again on this: Here in the US, getting pre-paid voice service via a T-Mobile sim is no problem exactly as Mary illustrates. The problem is getting pre-paid GPRS access to anywhere on the net OUTSIDE of T-Mobile's silly T-Zones walled garden. ~90% of the amazing

Re: openmoko and pre-paid cards

2007-02-16 Thread Perry E. Metzger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: T-Mobile or Sprint(??) must be induced to offer a prepaid GPRS service if the OpenMoko/Neo platform is to be as fully successful as possible. Sprint is CDMA, not GSM. I'm not sure it is necessary that people use the phones in prepaid mode, and it

Re: openmoko and pre-paid cards

2007-02-16 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Mary Stovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I put the Cingular Sim into the now unlocked Nokia and was able to get on the Cingular network. So now I have a phone that takes either SIM... That's very promising. Thanks for doing the experiment! (I am now trying to find the unlock codes for the

Re: Connect self-powered USB storage devices?

2007-02-16 Thread Mikko Rauhala
pe, 2007-02-16 kello 12:37 -0600, Steven ** kirjoitti: So, I know the USB port is a mini and it's unpowered. But... Assuming there's a USB mini to full USB adapter, is there any reason you couldn't connect the Neo to a USB hard drive? Most (all) of the USB hard drives I've seen had a

Re: Automatic Updates Notification for the Neo?

2007-02-16 Thread kkr
Le vendredi 16 février 2007 à 13:00 -0500, Perry E. Metzger a écrit : kkr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would it be possible to have, as in Fedora Core 6, a kind of Automatic Updates Notification? Anything is possible -- but remember, this is an open source project. The things we really want,

Re: Help Adding A Picture/Video Behind Incoming Call Screen

2007-02-16 Thread Marcel de Jong
Hi Ryan, On 2/16/07, Dr. Suess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anyone help me with this (subject). Where are the images for the incoming calls screen? Do you mean something like this: http://people.openmoko.org/sean/specifications/images/dialer_incoming.png But I believe the images in those

Re: Automatic Updates Notification for the Neo?

2007-02-16 Thread Florent THIERY
It should be. The package manager used by OpenEmbedded (ipkg) supports operations similar to yum and apt-get: Will there be an official/community repository? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Automatic Updates Notification for the Neo?

2007-02-16 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Sat, 2007-02-17 at 02:17, Florent THIERY wrote: It should be. The package manager used by OpenEmbedded (ipkg) supports operations similar to yum and apt-get: Will there be an official/community repository? 1. Official openmoko feed. 2. Feed with packages tested by openmoko

Re: openmoko articles

2007-02-16 Thread Mike Hodson
Bloody gmail and their lack of 'reply to bloody list' Apoligies Michael, on the personal reply and now this repeat. On 2/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for it on Digg - I think digg points to the gizmodo article, and anyone can join digg and post comments. That I