Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Sven Neuhaus
Hello, here's the size and weight of a few touchscreen mobile phones: Neo1973 iPhone M600i LG Prada length (mm) 120.7115 107 98.8 width 62 61 57 54 height18.5 11.6 15 12 weight (g)184 135 112 85

Re: Re: Anti Iphone (Was Re: Some light ahead...)

2007-05-02 Thread Casper van Donderen
Yeah the iPod video has a video chip But on the internet I read that the iPhone might go with the Samsung s3c2460 chip, That chip has a hardware video decoder on it. But I think another option could be the MagicEyes MMSP2 chip used in the GP2X linux handheld, that has hardware video (up to

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Please consider dpi comparison in which Neo is unbeatable winner. The display of the Neo is definitely great, but I agree with Sven, the device is a bit too big. Especially it is too thick. I think the iPhone can only be so thin because the battery is built-in.

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Ian Stirling
Maciej Ligenza wrote: Sven, On 5/2/07, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's also the biggest. It weighs almost *twice* as much as the LG Prada, despite having a smaller screen! [..cut..] The iPhone has a *much bigger* screen than the Neo1973 and it's still smaller and a lot lighter.

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Stirling wrote: Maciej Ligenza wrote: Sven, On 5/2/07, Sven Neuhaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's also the biggest. It weighs almost *twice* as much as the LG Prada, despite having a smaller screen! [..cut..] The iPhone has a *much

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices Date: Wed 02 May 07 03:24:43PM +0200 Quoting Andreas Kostyrka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Yes, it makes the text a tiny bit sharper, and if you bring it to 20cm from the eye, and have good eyes, you can read

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Eric Heinemann
50g is a huge difference. It is the exact difference between a RAZR and an i-mate JAM (O2 XDA mini II, Qtek S100) is exactly 50g. Having owned both, I can tell that it is a very noticable difference. I did not know the Neo1973 was that heavy. This completely changes my view of the device.

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 2 maja 2007, Andreas Kostyrka napisał: It's a smartphone, so let's compare it to smartphones: Nokia 9500: 56.9mm x 148.1mm x 23.9mm 229.9g T-mobile MDA compact III: 58.0mm x 108.0mm x 17.0mm 127.0g T-mobile Vario II:58.0mm x 113.0mm x 22.0mm 160.0g Nokia

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Steven **
Quoth your link: All in all, the P3300 features a typical display for a Windows Mobile-powered communicator, which doesn't stand out against the background of its rivals. It's just another Windows PDA/phone. Boring. -Steven On 5/2/07, Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dnia środa,

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Oleg Gusev
Am Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2007 19:16 schrieb Marcin Juszkiewicz: Then compare it to HTC Artemis: It has QVGA screen 2.8, cpu: omap850 200MHz, 64M ram, 128M flash. omap850 is probably the worst modern CPU for running Linux. It is slow, undocumented and uses main DRAM for the GSM operation. There

Re: Size and weight considerations for future Openmoko devices

2007-05-02 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia środa, 2 maja 2007, Steven ** napisał: It's just another Windows PDA/phone.  Boring. It is also small, light and have interesting input device which allow to do most of tasks with one hand. Most of current devices are boring. Neo is also huge and thick. Battery cover feel like 'I will

Re: Always-on networking via GPRS

2007-05-02 Thread Rod Whitby
Nuutti Kotivuori wrote: USB-networking is probably no problem since it shows up as a normal ethernet device on both ends. But how to do Bluetooth networking? One choice would be to do Bluetooth PAN. This would require 'pand' and modules on the Neo1973 side. The device should be configured as a