Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Tigran Zakoyan
Jason Elwell wrote: I dont know whats more sad... You creating a paperdoll of an OpenMoko, or the fact that I downloaded it and made one for myself! LOL! Me too :) BTW, can't agree 1973 is too big. It just fits the size of my QTEKs110, which size's been really handy for me two years I use

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Denis Parchenko
Hello Community, I am reading this mailing list about a month. And finally here is my first post :) Can any of happy neo1973 owners talk about its audio quality? Comparing sound quality to iPod or SonyEricsson K750/W800/W810 with their native headphones (using known non-professional

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Jason Elwell
Denis, There are not many neo1973 owners yet. Only about 36 developers have received a free phone. From what we hear, there is alot of work still to be be done on the basic software. Hopefully in the the very near future, FIC will begin selling to the rest of the development community so

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread el jefe delito
Right, the first version isn't supposed to be a mass market consumer device. But I believe the intention is that the version that was intended to ship in September was to be a mass market device. I was under the impression that this phone was already produced and available in Asia,

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Jason Elwell
That is news to me. The only other project planning to use neo1073 AFAIK is a recent announcement by Sun to build some sort of mobile platform. They used the neo1973 as a mockup in the press release... Word here is that this phone's hardware is still stuck on the assemply line. FIC was

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.05.2007 um 14:37 schrieb el jefe delito: Right, the first version isn't supposed to be a mass market consumer device. But I believe the intention is that the version that was intended to ship in September was to be a mass market device. I was under the impression that this phone

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2007/5/14, Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED]: = Software = Software is very limited at this point: I have yet to place my first call using the phone. Features and overall software quality can (and will) improve in future, but poor performance worries me much. Long time ago I had Palm III which had

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Christopher Tokarczyk
not having a neo yet I can't comment on how it actually performs now, but I just think it's worth pointing out that this is still very very early. personally, i'm not too worried because i have faith that once the phones are out and the community at large has a crack at them, things will improve.

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 17:51 -0500, Jason Elwell wrote: On Monday 14 May 2007 14:46:08 Duncan Hudson wrote: So, if I was a betting man I'd say that it either didn't go off, or another show stopper / slip causer popped up. Lets hope you are a crappy gambler. :) Seriously though, It is

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread el jefe delito
maybe i was wrong about the FIC Neo1973 being previously used. No idea where I got that from, but it was in my head somehow. Sean, thanks for the update, even if its not the best news. We're all happy with the openness of the production information.

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sean wrote: Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination issues. But I'm still being told that we're on to have devices this month. That's cool. No problem with waiting a few more weeks. We were all

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Jeff Andros
On 5/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean wrote: snip We were all beginning to think the production run was finished and you guys were there at the factory just rolling around on big piles of them.

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Frank Coenen
Sean, does this have to do with the recent shortage on LCD-displays in Taiwan? - Source: http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20070508PD204.html Quote: The supply of 2.2- to 2.5-inch panels for entry and medium-level DSCs began running short of demand by about 10% early last month and the shortage

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread polz
On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination issues. But I'm still being told that we're on to have devices this month. At least to me, the neo1973

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 02:03, polz wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply coordination issues. But I'm still being told that we're on to

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Robin Paulson
damn gmail reply issues.posted agian with correct address On 5/16/07, polz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last minute supply

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
POLZ Wrote: At least to me, the neo1973 is looking more and more like vapourware, an experiment in marketing, whose purpose is to: 1.) estimate the size of the potential market for OpenMoko devices 2.) see how long the hype will last. Can anyone here suggest an HTC phone which can be bought in

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Ian Stirling
Robin Paulson wrote: damn gmail reply issues.posted agian with correct address On 5/16/07, polz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 15 May 2007 18:26:57 Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Most all the parts are now at the factory. The May 10th run has been delayed about two weeks because of last

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Newsom
On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:16, Ian Stirling wrote: FIC is not a small company. http://www.fic.com.tw/about.htm Over 5000 employees isn't small. Smaller than Nokia/Sony, sure. But they are well over 20 times the size of Trolltech, who launched the greenphone. Ahh.. But who manufactured the

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Robin Paulson
ahh, damn gmail shitesorry tim from trolltech.com Q. Did Trolltech design the phone? Are there other models to choose from? A. Trolltech worked very closely with one of our Qtopia-licensed ODM partners in China, Yuhua Teltech, to make this first, open platform Greenphone a reality.

Re: Durability of the Neo1973?

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Newsom
No problem.. It was more of a rhetorical(sp?) question anyway. I was just trying to point out that the situation was a bit different. --Tim On Tue, 15 May 2007 18:41, Robin Paulson wrote: ahh, damn gmail shitesorry tim from trolltech.com Q. Did Trolltech design the phone? Are there

Re: First impressions of Neo1973

2007-05-15 Thread Tim Newsom
On Tue, 15 May 2007 22:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007, Tigran Zakoyan wrote: Jason Elwell wrote: I dont know whats more sad... You creating a paperdoll of an OpenMoko, or the fact that I downloaded it and made one for myself! LOL! Me too :) BTW, can't agree 1973 is